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A lot of people ask me...

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Why did you write
the song "Stan?"

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Is "Stan" based on a real fan?

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Why do you share so much
about yourself in your music?

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What the hell goes
on in your brain?

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Are you happy?

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How's your daughter?

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Who is someone that
helped you the same way

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that you helped me?

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Do you feel like the
impact you've had

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is what you hoped it would be?

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What's it like being famous?

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How much fan mail do you get?

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How does it feel to be
followed by so many people?

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Have you read my letter?

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Is everyone ready?

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All right, Marshall, take one.

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What's your first question?

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Hi, my name is chick
a-chick a Slim...

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I wanted to say Zolt Shady.

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Hi, my name is chick
a-chick a-chick a

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Zolt Shady.

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Hi, my name is Alex.

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Hi, my name is Daniyela.

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Hi, my name is Giovanni.

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Hi, my name is Brooklyn.

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Hi, my name is James.

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Hi, my name is Kyle.

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Hi. "My Name Is."

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Well, no, you...

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I'm s... I thought you
mean it like the song.

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Hi, my name is Nikki.

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Let me just put my cape on.

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I don't even know what
these look like on.

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Too much?

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It's called the Eminem.

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Um, it's based off...
in his music video

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"Without Me."

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Um, although I did leave
my plastic ass at home,

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but this is my costume.

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This is art.

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This is crazy.

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Early Eminem, Slim Shady.

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This is the type of
mask that he always wore

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in every concert, early 2000s,

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everything like that.

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How and why does a white
T-shirt become iconic?

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Because, uh, there's a
Slim Shady in all of us.

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When he wears that shirt,

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and when I wear
that shirt as well,

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it symbolizes unity.

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They, um, have an Eminem
subreddit, r/eminem,

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and I enjoy being there.

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It's actually, uh,
where I found my people.

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So I follow him on
all social medias.

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Every social media that
he has, that I have,

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I will follow him on.

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I, like, followed him every...

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not followed him
everywhere, 'cause that

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sounds weird and creepy.

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You should see what
my explore page

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on Instagram looks like.

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Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies,

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Eminem, Eminem, horror movies,

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Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles.

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Stuff like that.

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I wake up every morning,
and it is a habit.

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It's a ritualistic routine.

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I think I do have an
addiction to Eminem.

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Occasionally, like,
I'll go into, like,

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a YouTube, like,
rabbit hole where

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I'll, like, watch
old performances

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or music videos or interviews.

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And, like, what people
could say in interviews

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25 years ago versus what
they could say now, like,

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half the shit he
said was insane.

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All right, y'all.

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Back here live on
the "Rap City" thing.

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I'm looking for my man.

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My man is not...

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Ow!

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Ow!

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Yo, cut the cameras, man.

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Come on, dog.

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Come on. Come on.

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- You all right?
- Hey!

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- One...
- Ladies and gentlemen...

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And a-two, and a-three...

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Insane.

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This guy's insane.

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Ladies and gentlemen,
introducing Eminem.

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Y'all give it up for Eminem.

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- What's up, dog?
- What's up, man?

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How you doing?

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That right there, it
brought me back so much.

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Just the energy that he
came in when he was onscreen

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was a different type of energy.

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This is an artist called Eminem.

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It's spelled funky.

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If you're going to pronounce it,

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it's like the candy. Eminem.

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I'm keeping it gangster, homie.

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I'm keeping it gangster.

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I am flexing my bum-bum.

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There was a shock factor

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when I was first
discovering Eminem.

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Here's Eminem doing one of
the best Michael Jackson

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impersonations I've ever seen.

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He was definitely
a loose cannon.

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Mom!

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No, yes, you did molest me.

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This dude, he's got a
good sense of humor,

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and he's willing to
express his art, you know,

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with no boundaries.

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I was 10 years old sitting
at home watching MTV

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in hopes to see
the Backstreet Boys

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or NSYNC come on,

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but it was Marshall Mathers.

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Slim Shady came on
with "My Name Is,"

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and my whole life
changed after that.

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I was coming home from
the police academy,

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and I hear, "Hi, my name is."

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And I was like, what is this?

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And so I listened to
it all the way home.

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It's not like anything
else I've heard before.

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I'm in.

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You want to copy me and
do exactly what I did?

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Try 'cid and get fucked
up worse than my life is?

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I was like, what? Yeah!

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Sign me up.

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I'll do it.

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Most of these rappers back then,

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they want to portray this,
I'm from the streets,

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I'm a thug, I'm this,
don't fuck with me.

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He's just being him.

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He's just having a grand time.

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Nobody was making those
type of music videos.

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Most people were like,
half-naked, dancing,

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doing, like, these big numbers.

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And he had, like, storylines.

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When he started going at
these pop culture people,

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making fun of them to the T,
I'm just like, oh, my God,

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dude, this guy really
doesn't give a fuck.

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I was, like, hypnotized.

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Like, my eyes were, like,
glued to the screen,

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and that kick started
my obsession with him.

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We be live in Times Square,
"Total Request Live,"

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with the big videos,
the most requested ones.

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How about a round of
applause for Eminem?

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Hi.

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Making his...

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"TRL" at the time was new.

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It was always our
intent to have it be

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an exact reflection
of our audience.

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It was like, what if we gave
one hour of this network

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to the fans?

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And let's ask them
what they want.

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Let's take their requests.

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I was a radio guy,
and we did a lot

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of, like, requests in radio.

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Who did you want to see?

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Congratulations.

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"Slim Shady" is going to
number two next week...

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- Thank you.
- On the charts.

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Thank you.

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That deserves a round
of applause right there.

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With a little... little
bit of help from MTV.

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I've seen fans.
I've seen it all.

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I've never seen anything like
Marshall, Eminem fans, ever.

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My name is!

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How they show up,
what they look like,

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the connection that they
have with this artist,

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it's really deep.

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The reason why we're here today

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is because of his
creation of "Stan."

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He created a culture that is

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so out of the boundary

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of regular pop culture

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that he made his own term.

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Anything I can grab
on Eminem, I'll find.

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Over a thousand interviews
I've watched, rewatched.

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He was the first one where
I was like, you know what?

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I could marry this guy.

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I would say that I'm a Stan.

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I know three albums
back to back lyrically,

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every single word
of... of everything.

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I remember being him for
the talent show when I was

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11 and dressing
up, white T-shirt.

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I sprayed my hair yellow.

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When I was five my brother
exposed me to his songs,

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and I kept listening
to it over and over,

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and all my friends
were like, oh, my God.

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Like, girl, you
need to calm down.

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I have a book, a specific
book that I made.

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When I see Eminem,

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I put it in the book.

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There was a point in time
where every single magazine

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cover you looked at or saw,
no matter where you were,

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Marshall was on the cover.

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For so many people
admiring you that much

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and having such a
strong reaction to you,

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it must have been, like,
a high or something.

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And the winner is
Eminem, "My Name Is."

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I want to thank all the fans

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that made "Slim Shady" possible.

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All of a sudden, you're
skyrocketed into fame,

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and it's everything
you've ever wanted,

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everything you ever dreamed of.

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I can't even imagine that.

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Has it ever felt normal
in any sense of that word?

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Well, none of this is normal.

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None of it's normal.

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Once the "Hi, My Name Is" video,

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once MTV accepted
that and played it,

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it was like a fucking
switch went off overnight.

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And all of a sudden, I woke
up the next day from that,

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and my entire life
was changed forever.

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Um, uh, we're gonna go
to, uh, my old house,

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and I'm going to
knock on the door

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and see if I can get in

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'cause I left
something in my room.

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This is the house.

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See back there, that
used to be a garage.

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One of my longtime
friends, Deshaun Holton.

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He's a rapper too.
His name is Proof.

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He used to take me up in
the lunchroom at Osborn.

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What's up, dog?

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I used to battle, like, a
lot of kids in the school.

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Proof was Eminem's best friend.

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He was there from the beginning.

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Proof gave him a lot
of the confidence

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and a lot of courage.

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The illest story
is we used to do

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the "White Men
Can't Jump" thing.

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I used to go in to sneak him...

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I used to sneak him into Osborn,

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and everybody would be
like, I'll battle you, man.

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I'll battle.

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I'm like, you ain't
can't battle me.

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Why don't you battle him?

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And they'd be like,
oh, the white boy?

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I'ma kill him!

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I'ma kill him!

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Then he'd come out
busting a rhyme...

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Everybody and they
friends like...

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One of the reasons I
love Eminem's story

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is because he didn't set
out to become famous.

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He loves his art. He
loves what he does.

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Hello, I'm Slim Shady.

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I don't think he
ever could have seen

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where it would have gone to.

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I cut class... don't
tell my mother...

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and...

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And we were sitting
in my boy's house,

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and we had MTV playing,
and my boys were just like,

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00:12:28,855 --> 00:12:30,407
oh, just another white rapper.

257
00:12:30,510 --> 00:12:32,324
And I was like, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.

258
00:12:32,407 --> 00:12:34,958
I've never heard anybody
do it like he did it.

259
00:12:35,096 --> 00:12:36,772
And that's when I started
going down that wormhole.

260
00:12:38,510 --> 00:12:40,131
Where did he come from?

261
00:12:40,234 --> 00:12:42,717
Where was his origin story?

262
00:13:12,441 --> 00:13:15,027
When I found out that this
is a battle rap rapper,

263
00:13:15,131 --> 00:13:18,427
and rapping all these
Black rappers in Detroit?

264
00:13:21,924 --> 00:13:23,186
I knew this was a matter of time

265
00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:24,683
that this guy was
going to make it.

266
00:13:24,821 --> 00:13:26,289
I've been rhyming a long time,

267
00:13:26,372 --> 00:13:28,338
and battle rap is everything,

268
00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:29,821
you know what I'm saying?

269
00:13:29,924 --> 00:13:35,131
It is the equivalent of being
completely vetted in hip-hop,

270
00:13:35,234 --> 00:13:36,255
you know what I'm saying?

271
00:13:36,338 --> 00:13:37,890
Because you learn crowd control,

272
00:13:37,993 --> 00:13:40,338
those lyrical choices,
that storytelling.

273
00:13:40,441 --> 00:13:42,683
That's not stuff
that you can make up.

274
00:13:42,786 --> 00:13:44,165
You can't fake that.

275
00:13:44,269 --> 00:13:46,545
Eminem is forged in battle rap.

276
00:13:46,683 --> 00:13:49,255
He's what I call a
natural-born killer.

277
00:13:49,338 --> 00:13:51,200
And then he took that
to the Rap Olympics,

278
00:13:51,338 --> 00:13:54,944
where all the best rappers
battle for number one.

279
00:14:00,096 --> 00:14:04,186
The first prize was $500,
and I needed that $500, man,

280
00:14:04,269 --> 00:14:05,407
and I lost.

281
00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:07,269
I was fucking devastated.

282
00:14:07,407 --> 00:14:11,890
For him to lose, he was crushed.

283
00:14:12,027 --> 00:14:14,634
But an intern approached
him and said, "Hey, man,

284
00:14:14,717 --> 00:14:16,324
can I have one of your tapes?"

285
00:14:16,407 --> 00:14:18,496
And then he left to go
back home to Detroit

286
00:14:18,579 --> 00:14:21,062
to try to continue
to make music.

287
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,890
All of a sudden, we get
a call from Jimmy Iovine

288
00:14:23,993 --> 00:14:27,027
and Dre himself saying,
"We want to meet with you.

289
00:14:27,131 --> 00:14:28,717
We like your tape."

290
00:14:28,855 --> 00:14:30,614
Dr. Dre, to me,

291
00:14:30,717 --> 00:14:33,786
is the greatest
producer of our time.

292
00:14:40,165 --> 00:14:41,752
The first time I
heard Eminem was in,

293
00:14:41,890 --> 00:14:43,979
um, Jimmy's garage,
where he used

294
00:14:44,062 --> 00:14:45,496
to have a listening section.

295
00:14:45,579 --> 00:14:47,614
And back then, it was
just cassette tapes,

296
00:14:47,752 --> 00:14:49,841
and he popped this
one in, and he said,

297
00:14:49,924 --> 00:14:51,186
"What do you think about this?"

298
00:14:51,269 --> 00:14:52,772
And it just happened
to be Eminem's demo,

299
00:14:52,855 --> 00:14:54,717
and it had five songs
on it, and one of them

300
00:14:54,855 --> 00:14:57,703
was a song called "I
Just Don't Give a Fuck."

301
00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:05,393
I thought it was just
fucking fascinating.

302
00:15:05,476 --> 00:15:07,958
I had no idea that
what I was listening to

303
00:15:08,062 --> 00:15:09,441
was a white guy, right?

304
00:15:09,545 --> 00:15:10,738
I had no idea.

305
00:15:10,821 --> 00:15:12,738
I just knew that I
wanted to work with him.

306
00:15:12,821 --> 00:15:14,875
Dre was just all in.

307
00:15:14,958 --> 00:15:17,993
And when Dre likes
something that much,

308
00:15:18,096 --> 00:15:20,427
we really pay attention,
especially me.

309
00:15:20,510 --> 00:15:24,303
So I was kind of like,
OK, fly this guy out here.

310
00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:25,738
And when you first met,

311
00:15:25,821 --> 00:15:27,101
what did you think
of each other?

312
00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,531
I thought he was Tweety Bird.

313
00:15:31,062 --> 00:15:33,027
- No, 'cause he had this real...
- Fuck you.

314
00:15:33,131 --> 00:15:36,821
He had this real bright
fucking yellow sweat suit on.

315
00:15:36,924 --> 00:15:38,220
Man, if I hear one more thing

316
00:15:38,303 --> 00:15:40,648
about that goddamn sweat suit.

317
00:15:40,752 --> 00:15:42,786
Why are you wearing
a yellow sash?

318
00:15:42,924 --> 00:15:43,993
The yellow sash.

319
00:15:44,131 --> 00:15:46,738
Um, in honor of
Eminem's yellow jumpsuit

320
00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,738
the day he met Dre,
which I think is just

321
00:15:48,821 --> 00:15:50,545
such a magical moment in itself.

322
00:15:50,648 --> 00:15:53,082
But he called me a
banana when he met me,

323
00:15:53,165 --> 00:15:56,131
so it was on from there.

324
00:15:56,269 --> 00:15:58,703
Dre has always been
pushing the edges.

325
00:15:58,786 --> 00:16:01,890
And this guy starts on the edge,

326
00:16:01,993 --> 00:16:05,807
so it was a... it was a
marriage made somewhere.

327
00:16:07,510 --> 00:16:11,324
Without Dre, I don't know
where Eminem would be,

328
00:16:11,407 --> 00:16:14,890
and what shaped him
in his earlier life

329
00:16:14,993 --> 00:16:17,510
carries on with him even now.

330
00:16:19,131 --> 00:16:21,441
Hey, Em, what's
going on? It's Paul.

331
00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:23,027
Uh, listen, if you wanna talk

332
00:16:23,131 --> 00:16:25,151
to those camera crews, go ahead,

333
00:16:25,234 --> 00:16:26,979
just don't say a
bunch of dumb shit.

334
00:16:27,062 --> 00:16:28,683
All right, call me back.

335
00:16:30,752 --> 00:16:32,924
There's a lot of
method to this madness.

336
00:16:33,027 --> 00:16:35,944
I always keep this shit,
Entertainer's Secret.

337
00:16:36,027 --> 00:16:38,441
Shh. Don't tell nobody.

338
00:16:38,545 --> 00:16:42,634
Um, it's, uh... actually,
Rick Rubin told me about this,

339
00:16:42,717 --> 00:16:45,372
and ever since the day
he told me about it,

340
00:16:45,476 --> 00:16:48,717
I've been using it for the
past seven years straight.

341
00:16:48,855 --> 00:16:51,924
I use it onstage. It's
fucking incredible.

342
00:16:52,027 --> 00:16:56,338
Especially, like, you know,
my voice only lasts so long,

343
00:16:56,441 --> 00:16:59,027
especially if I'm
doing, like, some, like,

344
00:16:59,165 --> 00:17:00,579
screaming shit or something.

345
00:17:00,683 --> 00:17:04,407
So like, this is the... this
is my best friend right here.

346
00:17:04,510 --> 00:17:06,545
What's it taste like?

347
00:17:06,648 --> 00:17:08,579
Uh, semen.

348
00:17:08,683 --> 00:17:11,441
Not that I know how that tastes.

349
00:17:11,545 --> 00:17:17,096
But if I were to guess,
I would say semen.

350
00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,531
I go through pens.

351
00:17:18,614 --> 00:17:20,186
I did go through a couple years

352
00:17:20,269 --> 00:17:23,062
where I was trying to
use red ink and blue ink,

353
00:17:23,165 --> 00:17:25,738
different colored inks
for different color ideas,

354
00:17:25,821 --> 00:17:27,841
like different ideas and
shit, but it didn't work.

355
00:17:27,924 --> 00:17:31,821
I just stuck to the black
and just stayed with it.

356
00:17:31,924 --> 00:17:34,531
Every time I write, there's
different stages of it,

357
00:17:34,614 --> 00:17:38,096
and that's one of the reasons
that I keep a book now

358
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,786
and I never get writer's block.

359
00:17:42,958 --> 00:17:45,476
I'm always able to
go back in my book

360
00:17:45,579 --> 00:17:48,924
and have unlimited ideas.

361
00:17:51,062 --> 00:17:54,269
Sometimes I just write
my rhyming words down

362
00:17:54,372 --> 00:17:57,393
and not the stuff in
between, so that it can't be

363
00:17:57,476 --> 00:18:00,165
put together if
someone finds it.

364
00:18:05,372 --> 00:18:08,600
To see his lyric sheets,
I mean, this is...

365
00:18:08,683 --> 00:18:10,427
this is magic right here.

366
00:18:10,510 --> 00:18:13,062
If I could own an original piece

367
00:18:13,165 --> 00:18:14,821
I would frame this in my home,

368
00:18:14,924 --> 00:18:16,220
and I'd point it out
to any fucking people

369
00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:17,510
that walked in.

370
00:18:17,648 --> 00:18:19,165
I'd make them look
at it with me.

371
00:18:19,269 --> 00:18:21,648
I'd make them dissect it
under a microscope with me.

372
00:18:21,752 --> 00:18:24,338
I'd make them say,
"oh, yo, this song...

373
00:18:24,441 --> 00:18:25,717
this line went into this song."

374
00:18:25,821 --> 00:18:26,821
I'm looking at something

375
00:18:26,924 --> 00:18:28,958
that resembles my grocery list.

376
00:18:30,303 --> 00:18:31,565
I write like this.

377
00:18:31,648 --> 00:18:32,648
My husband hates it.

378
00:18:32,752 --> 00:18:35,165
I seriously write the same way.

379
00:18:35,269 --> 00:18:37,062
I want to pick this man's brain.

380
00:18:37,165 --> 00:18:39,131
Like, it's a lot of
just, like, scribbles

381
00:18:39,234 --> 00:18:40,165
and, like, thoughts.

382
00:18:40,303 --> 00:18:43,648
But wow, this is...

383
00:18:43,786 --> 00:18:45,772
yeah.

384
00:18:45,855 --> 00:18:47,944
There's... there's a
lot of cursing on here.

385
00:18:48,027 --> 00:18:49,117
But I think it says,

386
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,944
"Fuck, I'm sick of
duckin' in public."

387
00:18:55,131 --> 00:18:57,910
When I look at the
handwritten lyrics,

388
00:18:57,993 --> 00:19:00,407
I feel like I see a busy brain.

389
00:19:05,648 --> 00:19:09,441
Seeing how he gets the
things out of his brain

390
00:19:09,579 --> 00:19:12,841
that way definitely influenced
me to get your thoughts out

391
00:19:12,924 --> 00:19:13,979
and making sense of them.

392
00:19:14,062 --> 00:19:15,393
You know, I have a
PhD, but it's not

393
00:19:15,476 --> 00:19:17,441
in typography or whatever.

394
00:19:17,545 --> 00:19:19,013
But it's like, it certainly
looks like someone

395
00:19:19,096 --> 00:19:23,096
who is dealing with
some intense emotion.

396
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,372
It looks like it was
very scribbled down

397
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:26,875
kind of hastily,

398
00:19:26,958 --> 00:19:29,890
and trying to spontaneously
capture something.

399
00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:35,200
I think it was, like, a
"Rolling Stone" interview.

400
00:19:35,303 --> 00:19:37,407
They asked him if he
ever thought about

401
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:39,614
going to a shrink, and
he said he don't need to

402
00:19:39,717 --> 00:19:42,717
'cause his music is his
therapy, and honestly,

403
00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:45,062
that's... that's the
best therapy there is.

404
00:19:45,165 --> 00:19:47,234
Like, when you have an
outlet, something that you're

405
00:19:47,372 --> 00:19:49,807
passionate about,
and you use that.

406
00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:51,027
That's the best way.

407
00:19:54,752 --> 00:19:58,324
My childhood certainly
wasn't the greatest.

408
00:19:58,407 --> 00:20:02,358
I always took that learning
experiences from my childhood

409
00:20:02,441 --> 00:20:04,496
and life lessons
and kind of was able

410
00:20:04,579 --> 00:20:08,703
to apply them through my music.

411
00:20:08,786 --> 00:20:11,531
I definitely find
relatability in him

412
00:20:11,614 --> 00:20:14,786
because he's somebody
who has written

413
00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:18,186
so honestly about struggling,
and I feel like that's why

414
00:20:18,269 --> 00:20:21,096
so many people
can relate to him.

415
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,703
I had the greatest
life in the world,

416
00:20:22,786 --> 00:20:24,186
coming from a
single-parent home.

417
00:20:24,269 --> 00:20:25,752
You know, my mother
never had a job.

418
00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:27,441
I hate to say that, you know.

419
00:20:27,545 --> 00:20:30,614
But, um, it took a toll,
man, being bounced around

420
00:20:30,717 --> 00:20:32,358
from school to school to
school to school to school,

421
00:20:32,441 --> 00:20:33,683
from state to state.

422
00:20:33,786 --> 00:20:35,703
And friends come
over and you don't

423
00:20:35,786 --> 00:20:38,324
want them to see your
family's on welfare and shit,

424
00:20:38,407 --> 00:20:40,683
so you hide the cheese
and shit like that.

425
00:20:40,786 --> 00:20:42,027
You know, that's real.

426
00:20:42,131 --> 00:20:43,324
I mean, it's funny,
but it's not funny,

427
00:20:43,407 --> 00:20:44,579
you know what I mean?

428
00:20:44,717 --> 00:20:46,151
It's like I look back
on it like, damn,

429
00:20:46,234 --> 00:20:48,062
that's fucked up,
you know, but...

430
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,703
My mom and I had a pretty
unstable relationship

431
00:20:51,786 --> 00:20:54,614
growing up, and there
was a lot of struggles

432
00:20:54,717 --> 00:20:57,703
with finances 'cause it
was just the two of us.

433
00:20:57,786 --> 00:21:00,186
I also came out as
a transgender man,

434
00:21:00,269 --> 00:21:02,289
and transness, or
even queerness,

435
00:21:02,372 --> 00:21:06,476
was not a conversation
in the area I grew up in.

436
00:21:06,579 --> 00:21:11,372
Being born female, it was
a very isolating, like,

437
00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:15,427
feeling to not really
know anyone else

438
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:16,993
who I could relate to.

439
00:21:17,096 --> 00:21:22,717
His struggles with bullying
also lined up with mine.

440
00:21:22,855 --> 00:21:25,117
There was a lot of moments
where I didn't make...

441
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,427
like, I wasn't sure if I would
make it out on the other side.

442
00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:32,289
Eminem was bullied relentlessly

443
00:21:32,372 --> 00:21:34,062
in elementary school.

444
00:21:34,165 --> 00:21:37,738
And it's horribly tragic
to me because even now

445
00:21:37,821 --> 00:21:39,234
I carry some of the traumas

446
00:21:39,338 --> 00:21:43,772
of my own life
from being bullied,

447
00:21:43,855 --> 00:21:46,821
and I can feel that in some
of the music he's written.

448
00:21:46,924 --> 00:21:48,855
So in the song "Brain Damage,"

449
00:21:48,993 --> 00:21:53,234
Eminem or Marshall is
getting bullied at school.

450
00:22:14,683 --> 00:22:16,875
You know, bleeding on the carpet

451
00:22:16,958 --> 00:22:20,013
and then having your parent
being like, look at you,

452
00:22:20,096 --> 00:22:22,062
you're getting blood
all over my rugs...

453
00:22:22,165 --> 00:22:24,013
I felt that.

454
00:22:24,096 --> 00:22:26,131
Growing up, I would
get into fights.

455
00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:29,186
I'd get into fights
a good amount.

456
00:22:29,269 --> 00:22:32,269
I'd get bullied from other kids

457
00:22:32,372 --> 00:22:35,131
calling me a faggot
for wearing tight pants

458
00:22:35,234 --> 00:22:37,441
because I was a skater kid.

459
00:22:37,545 --> 00:22:39,476
Going into my room,
and then putting on

460
00:22:39,579 --> 00:22:43,717
a song like "Brain Damage,"
that's what helped me.

461
00:22:43,821 --> 00:22:45,324
It was sophomore
year, and I went to go

462
00:22:45,407 --> 00:22:47,545
to a Super Bowl party
with my friends.

463
00:22:47,648 --> 00:22:49,062
We were watching the Super Bowl,

464
00:22:49,165 --> 00:22:50,151
and I had my hands in my head...

465
00:22:50,234 --> 00:22:52,234
my head in my hands like this,

466
00:22:52,338 --> 00:22:54,855
sitting on the ground with
my stomach on the ground,

467
00:22:54,958 --> 00:22:56,496
looking up at the TV.

468
00:22:56,579 --> 00:23:00,269
And a kid on the couch
spilled his iced tea

469
00:23:00,407 --> 00:23:03,476
and went, "Oh, I know what I
can use to pick that up with,"

470
00:23:03,614 --> 00:23:05,131
and grabbed his other friend.

471
00:23:05,269 --> 00:23:07,013
They picked me up by my feet
and used my hair as a mop

472
00:23:07,096 --> 00:23:11,165
and then threw me on
the ground, and I was...

473
00:23:11,269 --> 00:23:15,096
these were supposed
to be my friends.

474
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,476
It made me sometimes not
want to go to school,

475
00:23:18,579 --> 00:23:22,993
but I went because I
had Marshall's music.

476
00:23:24,752 --> 00:23:26,255
I would put my CD player on

477
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:29,648
and just walk
through the hallways.

478
00:23:29,752 --> 00:23:31,738
He inspired me to write.

479
00:23:31,821 --> 00:23:33,717
I write poetry.

480
00:23:33,855 --> 00:23:37,944
I loved how he could just
bend the English language,

481
00:23:38,027 --> 00:23:40,648
use different words to
rhyme off other words

482
00:23:40,752 --> 00:23:42,993
that necessarily wouldn't rhyme,

483
00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:46,476
like orange, door
hinge, syringe.

484
00:23:46,579 --> 00:23:50,338
That's great.

485
00:23:50,441 --> 00:23:55,338
His music made me feel like
I wasn't alone in this world,

486
00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:57,476
with what I was going through.

487
00:23:59,441 --> 00:24:01,324
Hip-hop was the
most important thing

488
00:24:01,407 --> 00:24:03,358
that empowered me as a kid.

489
00:24:03,441 --> 00:24:05,890
It made me feel
tough when I wasn't.

490
00:24:05,993 --> 00:24:09,062
I was a scrawny little
kid growing up on 8 Mile,

491
00:24:09,165 --> 00:24:12,186
walking up the fucking
block, put headphones on,

492
00:24:12,269 --> 00:24:15,531
and it made me feel powerful.

493
00:24:15,614 --> 00:24:18,441
Hip-hop, it taught me how
to throw my first punch,

494
00:24:18,579 --> 00:24:21,062
gave me the confidence.
It was like my dad.

495
00:24:21,165 --> 00:24:23,372
And it was the only thing
that made me empowered.

496
00:24:23,476 --> 00:24:25,013
It made me feel
good about myself.

497
00:24:25,096 --> 00:24:26,738
And when I started being
able to write rhymes

498
00:24:26,821 --> 00:24:28,752
and figured out I could do it,

499
00:24:28,890 --> 00:24:32,752
that's where the
feeling comes from.

500
00:24:32,855 --> 00:24:36,234
As a teenager, I definitely
had a lot of anger.

501
00:24:36,338 --> 00:24:39,462
I haven't met my father in
person since I was probably,

502
00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:42,614
like, one or two or something.

503
00:24:42,752 --> 00:24:44,890
But I never had anybody
that I could relate to

504
00:24:44,993 --> 00:24:48,013
in that regard growing up.

505
00:24:48,096 --> 00:24:49,634
Whenever he would talk
about his father too,

506
00:24:49,717 --> 00:24:51,717
he always sounded so angry.

507
00:24:51,855 --> 00:24:54,579
So I always gravitated
more towards

508
00:24:54,683 --> 00:24:56,634
the angrier-sounding Eminem,

509
00:24:56,717 --> 00:24:59,186
and Slim Shady was his alter ego

510
00:24:59,269 --> 00:25:00,579
and split personality for that.

511
00:25:00,717 --> 00:25:03,510
Eminem, Slim Shady,
Marshall Mathers.

512
00:25:03,614 --> 00:25:05,821
Could you briefly tell
us where one stops,

513
00:25:05,924 --> 00:25:07,186
the other one begins,
and the difference

514
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:08,772
between the three
different characters?

515
00:25:08,855 --> 00:25:12,407
Marshall Mathers stops
when the Bacardi kicks in,

516
00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:14,096
and then it's Slim Shady.

517
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,165
Marshall is the
human being where

518
00:25:16,269 --> 00:25:20,993
the heart and the human
experience come from.

519
00:25:21,096 --> 00:25:24,703
Eminem is the artist
through which Slim Shady

520
00:25:24,786 --> 00:25:26,372
and Marshall are channeled.

521
00:25:26,476 --> 00:25:28,427
That's where you see the
skill and the talent.

522
00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:32,165
And then Slim Shady is
this cartoon character.

523
00:25:32,303 --> 00:25:35,510
Slim is, uh, the
jokester, the hey,

524
00:25:35,614 --> 00:25:36,993
I'm here for a good time.

525
00:25:37,131 --> 00:25:39,082
A crazy son of a bitch...

526
00:25:39,165 --> 00:25:42,082
Um, that I love.

527
00:25:42,165 --> 00:25:45,131
He has, like, this
I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude.

528
00:25:45,234 --> 00:25:47,427
He's like a psycho,
but in a good way.

529
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:49,855
Uh, says whatever the
fuck he wants to say.

530
00:25:49,993 --> 00:25:53,082
He'll probably kill if you
look at him the wrong way.

531
00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:54,407
I'm putting the mask on.

532
00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:56,082
I'm like, I can be me.

533
00:25:56,165 --> 00:25:57,303
I can say what I want.

534
00:25:57,407 --> 00:25:59,648
I can flip a fucking
desk if I needed to.

535
00:25:59,786 --> 00:26:01,634
Even though he was
just being himself,

536
00:26:01,717 --> 00:26:02,890
people didn't like that.

537
00:26:03,027 --> 00:26:04,683
People did not like that at all.

538
00:26:04,786 --> 00:26:05,841
I mean, let's just
say the least,

539
00:26:05,924 --> 00:26:07,407
it was a trying time.

540
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:11,200
We were criticized enormously
for putting his music out.

541
00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:14,634
That controversy was covered
extensively by the media.

542
00:26:14,717 --> 00:26:16,117
While Black rappers
often get a pass

543
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,407
on lyrical nihilism,

544
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:19,324
Eminem, who's white,
has been taking

545
00:26:19,407 --> 00:26:22,372
some intense critical heat for
his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes.

546
00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:24,324
In Eminem's songs,
women are portrayed

547
00:26:24,407 --> 00:26:27,165
as little more than strippers,

548
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:30,062
punching bags, and
sperm receptacles.

549
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,062
It's so sad to see
those parents dropping

550
00:26:32,165 --> 00:26:33,683
their children off and saying,

551
00:26:33,786 --> 00:26:35,393
I don't know what the
lyrics are all about.

552
00:26:35,476 --> 00:26:38,372
[Vivaldi's "The Four
Seasons, 'Spring'"

553
00:26:43,062 --> 00:26:45,027
Perhaps one of the
most interesting words

554
00:26:45,165 --> 00:26:49,027
in the English language
today is the word "fuck."

555
00:26:49,165 --> 00:26:50,324
Out of all of the English words

556
00:26:50,407 --> 00:26:52,545
that begin with the letter F,

557
00:26:52,648 --> 00:26:55,993
"fuck" is the only word that
is referred to as the F-word.

558
00:26:56,096 --> 00:27:00,289
It's the one magical
word, just by its sound,

559
00:27:00,372 --> 00:27:04,096
can describe pain,
pleasure, hate, and love.

560
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,407
In English, fuck falls into
many grammatical categories.

561
00:27:08,510 --> 00:27:10,875
As a transitive
verb, for instance:

562
00:27:10,958 --> 00:27:12,875
"John fucked Shirley."

563
00:27:12,958 --> 00:27:14,924
As an intransitive verb:

564
00:27:15,062 --> 00:27:16,565
"Shirley fucks."

565
00:27:16,648 --> 00:27:17,890
It can be used as an adjective,

566
00:27:17,993 --> 00:27:21,579
such as, "John's doing
all the fucking work."

567
00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:23,358
As part of an adverb:

568
00:27:23,441 --> 00:27:25,890
"Shirley talks
too fucking much."

569
00:27:25,993 --> 00:27:27,407
As a noun:

570
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:29,393
"I don't give a fuck."

571
00:27:29,476 --> 00:27:31,875
With all of these
multipurpose applications,

572
00:27:31,958 --> 00:27:35,165
how can anyone be offended
when you use the word?

573
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:38,441
Say it loudly and proudly.

574
00:27:38,545 --> 00:27:42,096
Fuck you!

575
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,531
You rap about raping
and killing women,

576
00:27:43,614 --> 00:27:44,979
but you really don't do
that, do you, Eminem?

577
00:27:45,062 --> 00:27:46,427
- Yes.
- You do rape and kill women?

578
00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:47,441
Yes.

579
00:27:47,545 --> 00:27:49,048
Uh, are you amazed at the, uh,

580
00:27:49,131 --> 00:27:50,772
the firestorm that has
begun, and are you afraid

581
00:27:50,855 --> 00:27:52,303
it could be a career-destroyer?

582
00:27:52,407 --> 00:27:54,269
Um, I'm not worried
about it because anybody

583
00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:55,875
with half a brain is
going to be able to tell

584
00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:57,786
when I'm joking and
when I'm serious.

585
00:27:57,924 --> 00:27:59,993
With the first album,
"The Slim Shady LP,"

586
00:28:00,096 --> 00:28:02,338
all of a sudden,
now it's important.

587
00:28:02,441 --> 00:28:04,993
What I have to say is important.

588
00:28:05,096 --> 00:28:09,772
I remember one of the first
times signing autographs,

589
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:11,890
there'd be, like, a
line out the door,

590
00:28:12,027 --> 00:28:14,993
and somebody would be like,
yo, I just want you to know,

591
00:28:15,096 --> 00:28:18,082
man, you helped me so much
for... for this or for that.

592
00:28:18,165 --> 00:28:19,393
So now I'm like...

593
00:28:19,476 --> 00:28:20,717
What's your name?

594
00:28:20,821 --> 00:28:22,545
Writing a long paragraph
for them and shit,

595
00:28:22,648 --> 00:28:24,545
and signing their name,
and people are like, yo,

596
00:28:24,648 --> 00:28:25,841
can you speed it
up a little bit?

597
00:28:25,924 --> 00:28:26,910
'Cause we're not going
to get to everybody.

598
00:28:26,993 --> 00:28:27,944
- Hello.
- Can I have a hug?

599
00:28:28,027 --> 00:28:29,338
How you doing?

600
00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:31,600
I was living inside it
when it was all new to me

601
00:28:31,683 --> 00:28:33,683
and I still didn't
understand it.

602
00:28:33,786 --> 00:28:36,510
You know, this guy
has been somebody

603
00:28:36,614 --> 00:28:38,648
that I've been trying
to meet for a long time,

604
00:28:38,752 --> 00:28:42,944
and he's not easy
to get close to.

605
00:28:43,027 --> 00:28:46,372
Since I was 14, I
had this fandom in me

606
00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:48,234
that I wanted to, like, express,

607
00:28:48,338 --> 00:28:50,165
and I just didn't know how to.

608
00:28:52,510 --> 00:28:55,855
I remember the first
portrait tattoo that I got,

609
00:28:55,993 --> 00:28:59,338
being really anxious
about the pain.

610
00:28:59,476 --> 00:29:05,013
It's like a scratch,
quite a sharp scratch,

611
00:29:05,096 --> 00:29:06,841
and it depends kind of

612
00:29:06,924 --> 00:29:08,324
what it is that
you're having done.

613
00:29:08,407 --> 00:29:10,752
Like, the lines are
the worst because it's

614
00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:13,151
being dragged against your skin.

615
00:29:13,234 --> 00:29:15,358
But I fell in love
with the process

616
00:29:15,441 --> 00:29:17,752
of tattooing that day.

617
00:29:17,855 --> 00:29:21,131
I've kind of described it
as, I walked in one person

618
00:29:21,234 --> 00:29:24,579
and left a different person.

619
00:29:24,717 --> 00:29:28,131
And then it kind of
snowballed after that.

620
00:29:28,234 --> 00:29:30,579
In 2020, I set the
Guinness World Record

621
00:29:30,717 --> 00:29:34,407
for having the most tattoos
of the same musician.

622
00:29:34,510 --> 00:29:37,614
It has become my identity.

623
00:29:37,752 --> 00:29:41,234
Now that I've got
the ink, I feel like

624
00:29:41,372 --> 00:29:43,890
I've got to have a
possibility of meeting him.

625
00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:47,407
The first time I
met Marshall was

626
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:49,200
for the "Rolling Stone" cover.

627
00:29:49,303 --> 00:29:52,324
I was just shown into,
like, a conference room,

628
00:29:52,407 --> 00:29:54,200
and no one else was in there.

629
00:29:54,303 --> 00:29:56,303
And I sort of asked the
security guy to let me in.

630
00:29:56,407 --> 00:29:58,062
Like, just, hey,
is Marshall around?

631
00:29:58,165 --> 00:29:59,805
I just want to say hi,
and all that stuff.

632
00:29:59,890 --> 00:30:01,841
So he pointed to a
door that I didn't

633
00:30:01,924 --> 00:30:03,875
realize was the bathroom.

634
00:30:03,958 --> 00:30:07,890
And, uh, and I opened it
up, and I heard him puking.

635
00:30:09,165 --> 00:30:10,510
He came out of the stall.

636
00:30:10,614 --> 00:30:12,200
I was like, uh, hi, Marshall,

637
00:30:12,303 --> 00:30:13,324
it's really nice to meet you.

638
00:30:13,407 --> 00:30:14,531
Put my hand out.

639
00:30:14,614 --> 00:30:15,634
I'm Anthony from
"Rolling Stone,"

640
00:30:15,717 --> 00:30:17,717
like, super dork.

641
00:30:17,821 --> 00:30:19,890
And he just looked at
me and, like, burped...

642
00:30:21,096 --> 00:30:22,200
And, like, walked out.

643
00:30:25,131 --> 00:30:28,358
One of the three venues we
went to that first night was,

644
00:30:28,441 --> 00:30:31,096
like, a 16-year-old's
birthday party.

645
00:30:31,234 --> 00:30:33,234
You know, it was
basically Beatlemania.

646
00:30:33,338 --> 00:30:36,407
They were grabbing at
him, pulling at his shirt.

647
00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:38,752
The police were there
to, like, make sure

648
00:30:38,855 --> 00:30:40,269
that the limo got in and out.

649
00:30:40,407 --> 00:30:41,979
There were girls, like,
putting their boobs

650
00:30:42,062 --> 00:30:43,496
on the glass of the car.

651
00:30:43,579 --> 00:30:45,496
I remember him saying,
like, you're pretty cute.

652
00:30:45,579 --> 00:30:48,717
I love you too, but
I'm not going to jail.

653
00:30:48,855 --> 00:30:51,269
The night went from,
you know, then until

654
00:30:51,372 --> 00:30:53,062
about 4:00 or 5:00
in the morning.

655
00:30:53,165 --> 00:30:54,269
And for the whole time,

656
00:30:54,407 --> 00:30:55,958
he didn't speak a
word to me at all.

657
00:30:58,131 --> 00:31:02,165
So I've got my little circle
of family and friends,

658
00:31:02,269 --> 00:31:03,910
people that I've
basically grown up with,

659
00:31:03,993 --> 00:31:05,427
because I feel
like, at this point,

660
00:31:05,510 --> 00:31:07,958
anybody that I meet
after this only knows me

661
00:31:08,062 --> 00:31:11,565
for Eminem or Slim Shady
and doesn't know Marshall.

662
00:31:11,648 --> 00:31:13,614
So that's why I keep
those friends around,

663
00:31:13,717 --> 00:31:15,393
'cause I know that those
are the people that

664
00:31:15,476 --> 00:31:17,875
really care about me for me.

665
00:31:17,958 --> 00:31:20,220
I think it was a
defense against, like,

666
00:31:20,303 --> 00:31:22,614
the attention, the
fame. Just survival.

667
00:31:22,717 --> 00:31:24,131
Just trying to, like, take it in

668
00:31:24,234 --> 00:31:25,531
and figure out what
the hell's happening,

669
00:31:25,614 --> 00:31:27,027
'cause it happened so fast.

670
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:33,027
- So you show it to Eminem?
- Oh, yeah.

671
00:31:33,131 --> 00:31:34,048
- Yeah?
- Yes.

672
00:31:34,131 --> 00:31:35,358
Hello, Eminem.

673
00:31:40,476 --> 00:31:43,338
It's really an eye-opener
to see how crazy

674
00:31:43,441 --> 00:31:45,200
some people do get for Eminem.

675
00:31:45,303 --> 00:31:47,786
I travel the world for him.

676
00:31:49,890 --> 00:31:51,303
Nobody here.

677
00:31:51,407 --> 00:31:52,993
Just me and the camera.

678
00:31:53,096 --> 00:31:54,648
Oh, no.

679
00:31:54,752 --> 00:31:57,786
Well, one of these have
to be the jet for the day.

680
00:31:57,890 --> 00:31:59,648
Want that one? Or even that one.

681
00:31:59,786 --> 00:32:01,807
Paul's telling me to put
on my fucking seat belt,

682
00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:04,496
like if the plane
crashes, it's gonna help.

683
00:32:04,579 --> 00:32:08,462
I've seen Eminem in concert
about 30-something times.

684
00:32:08,545 --> 00:32:10,407
15 different cities

685
00:32:10,510 --> 00:32:12,634
in six, seven
different countries.

686
00:32:12,717 --> 00:32:13,993
I'm a parrot.

687
00:32:14,096 --> 00:32:16,855
I'm an embarrassed
parrot in Paris.

688
00:32:16,993 --> 00:32:18,234
- Oh, Eminem!
- Eminem!

689
00:32:18,338 --> 00:32:19,944
Eminem!

690
00:32:20,027 --> 00:32:23,372
I made this costume
because I wanted to wear

691
00:32:23,476 --> 00:32:26,890
something very eye-catching.

692
00:32:26,993 --> 00:32:29,855
They actually put me on camera

693
00:32:29,958 --> 00:32:31,372
throughout the stadium,

694
00:32:31,476 --> 00:32:33,821
and some random man
put me on his shoulders

695
00:32:33,924 --> 00:32:35,841
to, like, showcase it.

696
00:32:35,924 --> 00:32:38,579
I was hoping, of course,
he's gonna see my costume,

697
00:32:38,683 --> 00:32:40,200
and he's gonna
think it's so cool,

698
00:32:40,303 --> 00:32:42,103
and he's gonna invite
me on stage and meet me.

699
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200
I was asking Paul
today, I was like, uh,

700
00:32:44,303 --> 00:32:45,600
why do people want
to talk to me?

701
00:32:45,683 --> 00:32:47,717
And he was like, you rap well,

702
00:32:47,855 --> 00:32:49,669
you say a lot of personal shit,

703
00:32:49,752 --> 00:32:50,841
and your music and
your life is like

704
00:32:50,924 --> 00:32:53,510
the fucking "Jerry
Springer Show."

705
00:32:53,614 --> 00:32:54,944
"I didn't really
start doing drugs

706
00:32:55,027 --> 00:32:56,545
"until I rapped about them.

707
00:32:56,648 --> 00:32:58,634
"When I was on tour
rapping about Vicodin

708
00:32:58,717 --> 00:33:00,324
"or mushrooms or ecstasy,

709
00:33:00,407 --> 00:33:02,358
people started throwing
that shit my way."

710
00:33:02,441 --> 00:33:03,531
"I couldn't believe the effect

711
00:33:03,614 --> 00:33:05,062
"my lyrics had on people.

712
00:33:05,165 --> 00:33:07,234
They thought we were
literally drug addicts..."

713
00:33:07,338 --> 00:33:08,634
"And that they
could get backstage

714
00:33:08,717 --> 00:33:09,924
"and bring us substances.

715
00:33:10,027 --> 00:33:11,186
"It was wild.

716
00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:13,131
Welcome to rock and roll."

717
00:33:17,752 --> 00:33:19,372
Yo, they were so
loud, we couldn't rap

718
00:33:19,476 --> 00:33:20,752
for, like, 10 minutes.

719
00:33:20,855 --> 00:33:22,117
Just seeing, like,
how he was living

720
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,531
and the breakneck pace,

721
00:33:23,614 --> 00:33:26,048
instant stardom, instant fandom,

722
00:33:26,131 --> 00:33:27,427
and people starting
to get obsessed.

723
00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:29,614
What the fuck?

724
00:33:29,752 --> 00:33:30,875
I was just rooting
for him to, like...

725
00:33:30,958 --> 00:33:32,186
to hang on for the rocket ride.

726
00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:33,875
England, we're out of here.

727
00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:35,407
We love you. Thank you.

728
00:33:35,545 --> 00:33:37,407
Peace.

729
00:33:39,924 --> 00:33:42,269
Were you prepared
for how much the fans

730
00:33:42,372 --> 00:33:43,924
would connect with you?

731
00:33:44,062 --> 00:33:49,407
What I put out
was very much, um,

732
00:33:49,510 --> 00:33:52,786
raw and, like, just real,

733
00:33:52,924 --> 00:33:56,841
as far as situations in
my life and how I came up

734
00:33:56,924 --> 00:33:57,890
and shit like that.

735
00:33:57,993 --> 00:34:01,462
And I think that
that's maybe one

736
00:34:01,545 --> 00:34:05,821
of the things that
made some people

737
00:34:05,958 --> 00:34:07,579
feel like they could relate.

738
00:34:07,683 --> 00:34:10,993
It was a weird, strange
kind of adjustment,

739
00:34:11,096 --> 00:34:15,855
and my personality wasn't
well-equipped to handle that.

740
00:34:16,924 --> 00:34:18,200
"FANatic."

741
00:34:18,338 --> 00:34:19,738
I've never gotten into any music

742
00:34:19,821 --> 00:34:21,427
like I've gotten
into Eminem's lyrics.

743
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:25,372
Like, once I started listening
to him, I couldn't stop.

744
00:34:25,476 --> 00:34:27,427
We are at the restaurant
that Eminem worked at

745
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:28,993
before he made it big.

746
00:34:29,096 --> 00:34:31,255
Around the time Marshall's
really starting to blow up,

747
00:34:31,338 --> 00:34:32,821
there's a million channels.

748
00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:34,255
You know, the Internet
starts picking up.

749
00:34:34,338 --> 00:34:36,165
This is where Eminem
spent most of his time.

750
00:34:36,269 --> 00:34:37,738
This is the phone
Eminem touched.

751
00:34:37,821 --> 00:34:40,855
Content is just at its
infancy of becoming king.

752
00:34:40,958 --> 00:34:43,062
From a media standpoint,
you are really

753
00:34:43,165 --> 00:34:45,407
now into the minutia
of what it takes

754
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:47,062
to hold on to an audience.

755
00:34:47,165 --> 00:34:49,062
And what that came
down to for us, really,

756
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,062
was like, the fan experience,
we gotta go even more.

757
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,890
What was your best
subject in school?

758
00:34:54,027 --> 00:34:55,545
Oh, my God, none.

759
00:34:55,648 --> 00:34:57,407
Maybe English. I was
all right at English.

760
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:58,855
Everything else I
was horrible at.

761
00:34:58,958 --> 00:35:00,462
I was the worst.

762
00:35:00,545 --> 00:35:03,048
Fans just had such an
insatiable appetite

763
00:35:03,131 --> 00:35:04,441
for more and more access

764
00:35:04,579 --> 00:35:05,841
to the artists that they loved.

765
00:35:05,924 --> 00:35:07,600
I mean, now you're really
opening the floodgates

766
00:35:07,683 --> 00:35:08,875
for people who see that

767
00:35:08,958 --> 00:35:10,151
to live vicariously
through that moment

768
00:35:10,234 --> 00:35:11,958
and go, "Well,
that's all it takes."

769
00:35:12,096 --> 00:35:13,924
"I'm just going to jump
on a plane to Detroit

770
00:35:14,062 --> 00:35:16,338
"and go find 8 Mile
and walk around,

771
00:35:16,441 --> 00:35:18,372
"and I can just
have the experience

772
00:35:18,476 --> 00:35:19,358
that they just showed me."

773
00:35:19,441 --> 00:35:21,441
I was in my early 20s

774
00:35:21,545 --> 00:35:23,614
when I started
working at Gilbert's.

775
00:35:23,752 --> 00:35:25,738
And I knew Eminem
worked there, obviously,

776
00:35:25,821 --> 00:35:29,062
so I was like, fuck it, I'll
go work where Eminem worked.

777
00:35:29,165 --> 00:35:30,579
Like, I always wanted to,

778
00:35:30,717 --> 00:35:33,393
so one more thing
closer to Eminem.

779
00:35:33,476 --> 00:35:35,786
And I stayed at
that bitch for...

780
00:35:35,890 --> 00:35:37,531
for, like, 10 years,

781
00:35:37,614 --> 00:35:39,614
'cause I'm like, he's
going to come in.

782
00:35:41,131 --> 00:35:42,048
That's crazy.

783
00:35:42,131 --> 00:35:44,048
The whole
neighborhood's gone now.

784
00:35:44,131 --> 00:35:47,579
Me and Proof used to climb
this tree all the time.

785
00:35:47,683 --> 00:35:49,717
And we would sit up in the tree,

786
00:35:49,821 --> 00:35:51,324
and he would always
climb higher than me

787
00:35:51,407 --> 00:35:52,531
'cause he wasn't
afraid of heights.

788
00:35:52,614 --> 00:35:53,703
I was.

789
00:35:53,786 --> 00:35:56,303
Um, and we would just sit there

790
00:35:56,441 --> 00:35:58,821
and talk about, like,
what we was going to do

791
00:35:58,924 --> 00:36:00,772
once we made it as rappers.

792
00:36:03,165 --> 00:36:06,082
We shot here when the
house had been condemned,

793
00:36:06,165 --> 00:36:07,786
but it wasn't burnt down yet.

794
00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:09,855
And, like, I don't
know if you've ever

795
00:36:09,958 --> 00:36:12,821
been to, like, a house, go
back when you were a kid...

796
00:36:12,924 --> 00:36:15,545
everything seems smaller.

797
00:36:15,683 --> 00:36:18,117
Bro, that motherfucker
was like, here to here,

798
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,910
you could touch the
living room walls.

799
00:36:19,993 --> 00:36:21,648
We tried to buy it, and the city

800
00:36:21,752 --> 00:36:22,958
had already condemned it.

801
00:36:23,062 --> 00:36:26,993
So they wouldn't sell it to us.

802
00:36:27,096 --> 00:36:29,289
Did it ever occur to
you that fans would

803
00:36:29,372 --> 00:36:31,738
come here and make a pilgrimage?

804
00:36:31,821 --> 00:36:34,027
It's cool that people care,

805
00:36:34,165 --> 00:36:39,427
but it's also weird,
still, 'cause you're like,

806
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:41,338
but it's me, you
know what I'm saying?

807
00:36:41,441 --> 00:36:43,545
Like, why?

808
00:36:43,648 --> 00:36:46,062
It's really not
that big of a deal.

809
00:36:46,165 --> 00:36:48,510
When Em was blowing up,

810
00:36:48,614 --> 00:36:51,648
there was lots of kids
with white T-shirts

811
00:36:51,752 --> 00:36:53,165
and bleach blonde hair.

812
00:36:53,269 --> 00:36:55,462
But again, this might
be by Em's own doing.

813
00:36:55,545 --> 00:36:58,807
I mean, the videos, the
imagery that he put out,

814
00:36:58,890 --> 00:37:03,062
it's this million-white-boy
army behind me, you know?

815
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,234
Like, I am you.

816
00:37:18,614 --> 00:37:22,979
I was at the MTV Awards
when Marshall came out

817
00:37:23,062 --> 00:37:24,752
and that gang of fucking dudes

818
00:37:24,855 --> 00:37:26,441
followed him up on stage.

819
00:37:26,545 --> 00:37:28,407
Everyone around me kind
of fucking locked in,

820
00:37:28,510 --> 00:37:30,200
like, what is... what's
going on right now?

821
00:37:30,303 --> 00:37:31,151
Who the fuck is that guy?

822
00:37:31,234 --> 00:37:33,717
It was hands-down like, yeah.

823
00:37:33,821 --> 00:37:35,958
Like, that dude right
there, he's... he's...

824
00:37:36,062 --> 00:37:38,717
he's fucking...
he's cooler than me.

825
00:37:38,855 --> 00:37:40,579
When Eminem came on the scene

826
00:37:40,683 --> 00:37:43,096
and when they seen the
bleach blonde hair,

827
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,717
it kind of infected
the whole world.

828
00:37:45,821 --> 00:37:48,269
So many kids were dyeing
their hair yellow,

829
00:37:48,372 --> 00:37:50,200
dressing in, you
know, baggy clothes.

830
00:37:50,303 --> 00:37:51,579
And I saw it.

831
00:37:51,683 --> 00:37:53,717
So, you know, I had guy
friends that were like, oh,

832
00:37:53,821 --> 00:37:55,096
I'm Slim Shady, you know?

833
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,520
And I'm just like,
no, you're not.

834
00:37:59,062 --> 00:38:00,875
It was who they were now.

835
00:38:00,958 --> 00:38:02,600
It wasn't like, hey, I'm going
to go down to Times Square.

836
00:38:02,683 --> 00:38:04,151
I'm gonna... you know,
I'm gonna pay homage

837
00:38:04,234 --> 00:38:05,358
to Em and, you
know, do my thing.

838
00:38:05,441 --> 00:38:07,200
It was like, I'm becoming him.

839
00:38:19,407 --> 00:38:21,993
Nine years old, you know?

840
00:38:22,096 --> 00:38:24,855
One day I wanted to...
to make my hair blonde.

841
00:38:57,303 --> 00:38:59,993
You feel like a real Shady.

842
00:39:06,234 --> 00:39:08,441
Every people who
look at you, they...

843
00:39:08,545 --> 00:39:13,683
they know what is about,
you know, Shady, man.

844
00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:19,924
Eminem is absolutely like
an unwilling cult leader.

845
00:39:20,062 --> 00:39:24,062
He's someone who did not
want to take up that position

846
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,510
but has been, to no
fault of his own,

847
00:39:27,614 --> 00:39:29,200
kind of thrust into it.

848
00:39:29,303 --> 00:39:30,890
Eminem, ladies and gentlemen.

849
00:39:35,476 --> 00:39:36,545
- Big day.
- Right.

850
00:39:36,648 --> 00:39:37,910
- New album is out.
- A really big day.

851
00:39:37,993 --> 00:39:38,979
- Yeah.
- Really big day.

852
00:39:39,062 --> 00:39:40,289
"Mathers LP" is out.

853
00:39:40,372 --> 00:39:41,683
Now, that's your real name.

854
00:39:41,786 --> 00:39:42,875
- Is, uh... does that mean...
- It's my real name.

855
00:39:42,958 --> 00:39:44,048
That this is sort
of more of, like,

856
00:39:44,131 --> 00:39:46,165
reflective of who
you are? Or, uh...

857
00:39:46,269 --> 00:39:47,579
I think so.

858
00:39:47,683 --> 00:39:50,027
I think I got kind of
personal on this album,

859
00:39:50,131 --> 00:39:51,614
and just basically I just wanted

860
00:39:51,717 --> 00:39:53,738
to let people know that this
is... this is the real me.

861
00:39:53,821 --> 00:39:55,462
This is all jokes aside,
you know what I'm saying?

862
00:39:55,545 --> 00:39:57,151
There's a lot of songs
on the album that

863
00:39:57,234 --> 00:39:58,807
are like that, that
are like, you know,

864
00:39:58,890 --> 00:40:00,117
more serious than
the first album.

865
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,496
Right.

866
00:40:01,579 --> 00:40:02,476
Actually, we're listening
to it right now,

867
00:40:02,579 --> 00:40:03,752
a track called "Stan."

868
00:40:03,855 --> 00:40:04,821
It's the third
track on the album.

869
00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:05,772
What's... what's all this about?

870
00:40:05,855 --> 00:40:07,269
Explain this to me.

871
00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:09,510
Um, basically, it's just
about crazy fan mail

872
00:40:09,648 --> 00:40:11,234
that I get from people.

873
00:40:11,338 --> 00:40:14,324
And it's about, like, a
kid who is really sick,

874
00:40:14,407 --> 00:40:15,579
you know what I'm saying?

875
00:40:15,717 --> 00:40:17,979
And... and takes everything
that I say literally.

876
00:40:18,062 --> 00:40:20,634
What inspired me to
write "Stan" first

877
00:40:20,717 --> 00:40:23,117
was when I got the beat

878
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,993
and it had the
Dido sample in it.

879
00:40:25,096 --> 00:40:27,165
"But your picture on
my wall reminds me

880
00:40:27,269 --> 00:40:28,545
that it's not so bad."

881
00:40:28,683 --> 00:40:31,234
I felt like, that is...

882
00:40:31,338 --> 00:40:34,993
that line right there,
that's LL Cool J to me.

883
00:40:35,096 --> 00:40:38,338
Like, LL Cool J was
one of the rappers

884
00:40:38,441 --> 00:40:41,462
who helped get me through
so much childhood shit.

885
00:40:41,545 --> 00:40:43,634
I kept thinking,
like, oh, my God,

886
00:40:43,717 --> 00:40:46,096
am I LL Cool J to somebody else?

887
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,821
Instantly, I was
like, yo, this has

888
00:40:47,924 --> 00:40:49,752
got to be about,
like, an obsessed fan

889
00:40:49,890 --> 00:40:53,545
who's taking my shit too
literal, and slow down.

890
00:40:53,648 --> 00:40:55,372
I'm not... I'm just Marshall.

891
00:40:56,924 --> 00:41:00,324
Like, I'm not your
fucking savior.

892
00:41:21,165 --> 00:41:22,324
Let me in!

893
00:41:24,234 --> 00:41:25,703
What?

894
00:41:25,786 --> 00:41:27,614
Stanley, what are you
doing to yourself?

895
00:41:27,717 --> 00:41:29,752
What, the hair?
You don't like it?

896
00:41:29,855 --> 00:41:31,372
- Stanley!
- You like it?

897
00:41:31,476 --> 00:41:32,890
Stanley! Don't...

898
00:41:32,993 --> 00:41:36,186
Don't call me that, OK?

899
00:41:36,269 --> 00:41:37,338
Don't call me that.

900
00:41:37,441 --> 00:41:38,841
Don't you think you're
taking this too far?

901
00:41:38,924 --> 00:41:40,151
- Stanley.
- Here.

902
00:41:40,234 --> 00:41:41,496
Stanley!

903
00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:42,669
I was listening to the lyrics.

904
00:41:42,752 --> 00:41:44,013
I was just like,
this is amazing.

905
00:41:44,096 --> 00:41:45,772
I mean, I just think
his lyrics on that song

906
00:41:45,855 --> 00:41:47,269
are absolutely
brilliant, you know?

907
00:41:47,407 --> 00:41:50,186
He's, to me, the
ultimate storyteller.

908
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:59,683
I used to write
him all the time.

909
00:42:59,821 --> 00:43:01,807
I was like, hi, I'm
your biggest fan.

910
00:43:01,890 --> 00:43:03,924
I love you so much.

911
00:43:04,062 --> 00:43:06,407
When I was like, 12, yeah.

912
00:43:06,510 --> 00:43:07,958
Yeah, I wrote him a letter.

913
00:43:08,062 --> 00:43:11,096
And then later on, I
would write and be like,

914
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,131
your music is saving my life.

915
00:43:13,234 --> 00:43:14,890
Thank you for everything.

916
00:43:14,993 --> 00:43:17,614
I actually took a few hours
writing all the things

917
00:43:17,752 --> 00:43:22,234
I wanted to, but I thought
it was, I don't know,

918
00:43:22,372 --> 00:43:24,186
like too much like "Stan."

919
00:43:24,269 --> 00:43:27,634
I wrote one email
about 10 years ago.

920
00:43:27,717 --> 00:43:28,924
I haven't heard nothing back,

921
00:43:29,027 --> 00:43:30,358
but I'm still got
my fingers crossed.

922
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:32,372
It's only been 10
years. We good.

923
00:43:56,648 --> 00:44:00,993
Stan, he's a really, really,
really hardcore fan of Eminem,

924
00:44:01,096 --> 00:44:02,600
and he believes he's in, like,

925
00:44:02,683 --> 00:44:06,131
a parasocial
relationship with Eminem.

926
00:44:06,234 --> 00:44:09,338
Parasocial relationship
is a one-way

927
00:44:09,441 --> 00:44:12,924
mediated relationship where
it's like, there is Eminem.

928
00:44:13,027 --> 00:44:14,441
He's on stage performing.

929
00:44:14,545 --> 00:44:15,910
He's in music videos.

930
00:44:15,993 --> 00:44:19,393
And you start to feel
like you know this person.

931
00:44:21,234 --> 00:44:23,738
Over time, parasocial
relationships,

932
00:44:23,821 --> 00:44:27,600
they increase in
psychological intensity.

933
00:44:27,683 --> 00:44:30,614
They can develop into what's
called identification.

934
00:44:30,717 --> 00:44:33,082
You become so absorbed,

935
00:44:33,165 --> 00:44:36,131
you start to take
on his attitudes

936
00:44:36,234 --> 00:44:37,683
and beliefs and behaviors.

937
00:44:44,303 --> 00:44:46,220
After that you get to
what's called worship...

938
00:44:49,062 --> 00:44:50,958
Is when you treat
the media persona

939
00:44:51,062 --> 00:44:52,786
like a godlike figure.

940
00:44:52,924 --> 00:44:54,565
It is the less healthy place

941
00:44:54,648 --> 00:44:56,220
you want to be on the spectrum.

942
00:45:02,683 --> 00:45:03,890
I mean, I could relate.

943
00:45:04,027 --> 00:45:05,407
I was like, yeah, that happens.

944
00:45:05,545 --> 00:45:07,683
Really awesome
fans that can get,

945
00:45:07,786 --> 00:45:10,027
you know... you're
like their best friend,

946
00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:11,407
and you don't even know it.

947
00:45:17,717 --> 00:45:19,890
The connotations from the song

948
00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:23,200
are somebody that
is a crazy fan.

949
00:45:23,303 --> 00:45:25,855
It's probably how a
lot of people see me,

950
00:45:25,958 --> 00:45:28,200
I would imagine.

951
00:45:40,096 --> 00:45:42,027
Reaching out, reaching
out, and no answer.

952
00:45:42,131 --> 00:45:46,200
I could see how that
could affect someone.

953
00:45:51,027 --> 00:45:52,151
That's extreme.

954
00:45:52,234 --> 00:45:54,979
But then at the same
time, I was so someone

955
00:45:55,062 --> 00:45:56,738
that was like, well,
why isn't one of my...

956
00:45:56,821 --> 00:45:58,462
why isn't it one of my
letters he's reading?

957
00:46:01,131 --> 00:46:02,821
It was one of
those moments where

958
00:46:02,924 --> 00:46:05,579
I had to look in the
mirror and be like, wow,

959
00:46:05,683 --> 00:46:07,531
am I one of these crazy Stans?

960
00:46:24,855 --> 00:46:26,958
I was shocked.

961
00:46:27,062 --> 00:46:30,303
I mean, my first reaction
was, did this actually happen?

962
00:46:30,407 --> 00:46:32,186
I don't think he's
a real person,

963
00:46:32,269 --> 00:46:34,441
but it's definitely
possible that there's

964
00:46:34,545 --> 00:46:36,186
somebody out there like that.

965
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,979
I think there are people
out there that have

966
00:46:47,062 --> 00:46:51,910
that type of mental obsession
over another person,

967
00:46:51,993 --> 00:46:55,013
and I believe that it does
come from a real place.

968
00:46:55,096 --> 00:46:57,565
Whether it is exaggerated or not

969
00:46:57,648 --> 00:46:59,441
is all depending on the creator.

970
00:47:04,993 --> 00:47:08,855
But I believe it is
coming from a real place.

971
00:47:08,993 --> 00:47:13,683
If it wasn't a real person
who actually did do that...

972
00:47:17,958 --> 00:47:22,476
It's a message to
all of his fame.

973
00:47:32,441 --> 00:47:33,683
Hi.

974
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:47,752
But the word "Stan"
changed with the time.

975
00:47:47,855 --> 00:47:52,821
Stan, in 2024, it's
being crazy of something.

976
00:47:52,958 --> 00:47:55,683
Like, very, very crazy.

977
00:47:55,786 --> 00:47:57,821
Like, really, really crazy.

978
00:48:12,821 --> 00:48:14,821
I never killed my wife.

979
00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:18,890
I've never been crazy like him.

980
00:48:20,062 --> 00:48:23,407
I don't have a wife, by the
way, but I'm just saying.

981
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:32,324
Well, so...

982
00:48:32,407 --> 00:48:34,338
OK, so you guys
think this about me.

983
00:48:34,441 --> 00:48:35,890
That's fine.

984
00:48:38,717 --> 00:48:40,338
Not because I don't want to,

985
00:48:40,441 --> 00:48:44,393
but because it
was too big to me.

986
00:48:44,476 --> 00:48:47,958
I had and I still have a dream,

987
00:48:48,062 --> 00:48:52,131
is to travel and
discover Detroit.

988
00:48:52,234 --> 00:48:58,234
Because I grew up with
Eminem, so I wanted to...

989
00:48:58,338 --> 00:49:02,993
to know and to understand
where Eminem came from.

990
00:49:03,096 --> 00:49:08,958
So my family thought that

991
00:49:09,062 --> 00:49:10,683
that was all bullshit,

992
00:49:10,786 --> 00:49:13,082
that I spent my
money for nothing.

993
00:49:13,165 --> 00:49:15,510
But you know, when you're
passionate about something,

994
00:49:15,614 --> 00:49:19,082
just do your dream.

995
00:49:19,165 --> 00:49:20,738
That's it.

996
00:50:14,614 --> 00:50:16,269
How do you know
Eminem's not here?

997
00:50:53,993 --> 00:50:56,648
Because I was back in Paris

998
00:50:56,786 --> 00:50:58,821
after a beautiful
week in Detroit.

999
00:50:58,958 --> 00:51:00,476
I cried.

1000
00:51:20,752 --> 00:51:24,096
If "Stan" sort of
showed mainstream people

1001
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,462
who didn't understand how
powerful a rap song could be,

1002
00:51:27,545 --> 00:51:29,027
if "Stan" did that to them...

1003
00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:37,186
Then "8 Mile" did that on a
much more mainstream scale

1004
00:51:37,269 --> 00:51:39,545
across all swaths of culture.

1005
00:51:46,407 --> 00:51:48,683
He was a global phenomenon.

1006
00:51:48,786 --> 00:51:50,186
How are you feeling?

1007
00:51:50,269 --> 00:51:52,372
- I feel good.
- You feel good?

1008
00:51:52,476 --> 00:51:53,372
Yeah.

1009
00:51:55,890 --> 00:51:58,013
All right, next up is
my boy Bunny Rabbit.

1010
00:51:59,545 --> 00:52:01,738
He's a genius, man, a
motherfucking genius.

1011
00:52:01,821 --> 00:52:02,703
DJ, kick it.

1012
00:52:05,648 --> 00:52:07,372
Choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke,

1013
00:52:07,476 --> 00:52:09,821
choke, choke, choke, choke!

1014
00:52:09,924 --> 00:52:12,303
I believe what they did
with "8 Mile" was amazing,

1015
00:52:12,441 --> 00:52:13,993
the way that they loosely based

1016
00:52:14,096 --> 00:52:17,220
a lot of things on his life.

1017
00:52:17,303 --> 00:52:19,303
And it wasn't full full-fledged,

1018
00:52:19,407 --> 00:52:21,200
this is what happened, but...

1019
00:52:21,303 --> 00:52:23,821
so it keeps me excited
because my imagination

1020
00:52:23,924 --> 00:52:25,786
starts going like, all
right, so what was real?

1021
00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:26,786
What wasn't real?

1022
00:52:26,890 --> 00:52:28,565
Is that story true or not?

1023
00:52:28,648 --> 00:52:30,220
Did that really happen when
they were in the parking lot

1024
00:52:30,303 --> 00:52:32,165
in the shelter?

1025
00:52:32,269 --> 00:52:34,958
Yo, that's like one of the
best movies of all time,

1026
00:52:35,062 --> 00:52:37,565
if you're a rapper, 'cause
it wasn't over the top.

1027
00:52:37,648 --> 00:52:39,303
It seemed like real-world shit,

1028
00:52:39,407 --> 00:52:41,131
going through it with his mom.

1029
00:52:41,234 --> 00:52:42,289
What are you doing
with your life

1030
00:52:42,372 --> 00:52:44,338
that's so great, Rabbit?

1031
00:52:44,441 --> 00:52:45,841
Freestyling in the
car with Proof.

1032
00:52:50,958 --> 00:52:52,048
Breaking up with his girlfriend,

1033
00:52:52,131 --> 00:52:53,255
all this extra shit.

1034
00:52:53,338 --> 00:52:54,220
Like, that was real-world shit.

1035
00:52:56,027 --> 00:52:59,510
Him showing a glimpse
into what he went through

1036
00:52:59,648 --> 00:53:02,545
right before he got
famous, it showed the world

1037
00:53:02,648 --> 00:53:06,752
that it's like, hey, I
come from this background,

1038
00:53:06,855 --> 00:53:08,855
but it doesn't define me.

1039
00:53:10,441 --> 00:53:13,717
It is who I am, but I am
so much more than that.

1040
00:53:13,821 --> 00:53:15,579
In my mind, we're connected.

1041
00:53:15,717 --> 00:53:17,462
In one way or another,
in this universe,

1042
00:53:17,545 --> 00:53:18,600
there's a connection.

1043
00:53:18,683 --> 00:53:20,372
Yo, you... you're me.

1044
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:21,669
You're a regular dude.

1045
00:53:21,752 --> 00:53:23,807
This is not lights,
camera, action.

1046
00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:27,372
This is Marshall Mathers,
and I followed the story.

1047
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:29,324
And most parts, I
lived the story.

1048
00:53:29,407 --> 00:53:32,062
It enhanced my
fandom of him because

1049
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,993
I just saw how relatable he was.

1050
00:53:35,096 --> 00:53:37,614
And I didn't have, like,
a male figure in my family

1051
00:53:37,717 --> 00:53:40,821
or, you know, in my
household to look up to,

1052
00:53:40,924 --> 00:53:44,013
and I really looked up to him.

1053
00:53:44,096 --> 00:53:48,669
"8 Mile" did the most to
explain Eminem to the world.

1054
00:53:48,752 --> 00:53:51,462
There were all these critics
who were anti-Eminem.

1055
00:53:51,545 --> 00:53:53,289
Maureen Dowd, one of them
at "The New York Times,"

1056
00:53:53,372 --> 00:53:54,890
she had a bunch of
columns, you know,

1057
00:53:55,027 --> 00:53:57,117
saying he was a misogynist
and all the other things

1058
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,634
that he was controversial for.

1059
00:53:58,717 --> 00:54:01,510
And then after "8
Mile," she had a column

1060
00:54:01,614 --> 00:54:05,013
about having a crush on
him and talking about him

1061
00:54:05,096 --> 00:54:06,476
with other soccer mommies

1062
00:54:06,614 --> 00:54:08,131
and listening to him at the gym.

1063
00:54:08,269 --> 00:54:10,579
It explains him to
a wider audience,

1064
00:54:10,717 --> 00:54:13,096
contextualizes him, but it also

1065
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,062
is myth-making, for sure.

1066
00:54:15,165 --> 00:54:17,131
And I think that
to the fans that

1067
00:54:17,234 --> 00:54:19,476
aren't able to separate
the man from the myth,

1068
00:54:19,579 --> 00:54:21,441
this might as well
be a documentary.

1069
00:54:21,545 --> 00:54:23,131
My first guest is
a young man who is

1070
00:54:23,269 --> 00:54:25,476
on top of all of his games.

1071
00:54:25,614 --> 00:54:27,186
He's got the number-one
song in the country,

1072
00:54:27,269 --> 00:54:28,752
the number-one album
in the country,

1073
00:54:28,855 --> 00:54:31,372
and soon, the number-one
movie in the country.

1074
00:54:31,476 --> 00:54:33,496
Give it up for Eminem.

1075
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,958
And then it's such chaos
out there that unfortunately

1076
00:54:39,062 --> 00:54:41,062
we're going to have
to shut the shades,

1077
00:54:41,165 --> 00:54:43,579
but it's a real
sight to be seen.

1078
00:54:43,717 --> 00:54:45,579
In the history of
MTV, I have never

1079
00:54:45,717 --> 00:54:47,303
seen anything quite like it.

1080
00:54:47,407 --> 00:54:48,669
I remember being in the theater

1081
00:54:48,752 --> 00:54:50,738
that first night watching
that, going, "Fuck, man."

1082
00:54:50,821 --> 00:54:53,048
"Now, that's an opening
weekend for a fucking guy

1083
00:54:53,131 --> 00:54:54,476
who's not a movie star."

1084
00:54:54,614 --> 00:54:58,186
He just became a
movie star like that.

1085
00:54:58,269 --> 00:54:59,393
The movie is out.

1086
00:54:59,476 --> 00:55:01,131
- How you feeling?
- Good.

1087
00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:02,234
Yeah?

1088
00:55:02,338 --> 00:55:04,117
You're a little overwhelmed?

1089
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,131
A lot overwhelmed, but, um...

1090
00:55:12,165 --> 00:55:13,510
Proud too.

1091
00:55:13,614 --> 00:55:14,944
- I'm proud too, you know?
- Yeah.

1092
00:55:15,027 --> 00:55:16,289
I'm proud and I'm... I'm happy.

1093
00:55:16,372 --> 00:55:17,600
I'm excited.

1094
00:55:17,683 --> 00:55:19,048
You know, if it
wasn't for these fans,

1095
00:55:19,131 --> 00:55:20,683
I wouldn't have
got to this level

1096
00:55:20,821 --> 00:55:24,131
to be enabled to do my own
movies and things like that,

1097
00:55:24,234 --> 00:55:27,200
and have this kind of power
and this kind of control,

1098
00:55:27,303 --> 00:55:28,427
and I'm loving it.

1099
00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:30,131
Yo, let me ask you this...

1100
00:55:30,234 --> 00:55:32,821
I was just looking up some
stuff about Eminem online,

1101
00:55:32,924 --> 00:55:35,683
and this girl was
talking about how

1102
00:55:35,786 --> 00:55:37,772
she apparently was spending time

1103
00:55:37,855 --> 00:55:39,303
with him while he was on tour.

1104
00:55:39,407 --> 00:55:41,200
Like, some fan
girl he picked up.

1105
00:55:41,303 --> 00:55:44,545
And I thought at first that
that was real, so I'm like,

1106
00:55:44,648 --> 00:55:47,545
did somebody really put
that... like, that hap...

1107
00:55:47,648 --> 00:55:49,634
somebody put that
out? That's insane.

1108
00:55:49,717 --> 00:55:52,131
Then when I scrolled
down to the end,

1109
00:55:52,234 --> 00:55:54,338
it said fan fiction.

1110
00:55:59,786 --> 00:56:02,496
The next thing I knew,
that was all I was reading,

1111
00:56:02,579 --> 00:56:04,924
'cause it was kind of addictive.

1112
00:56:10,855 --> 00:56:13,669
And after, like, about three
or four months of reading it,

1113
00:56:13,752 --> 00:56:17,579
I was like, why don't
I write one myself?

1114
00:56:19,338 --> 00:56:22,890
I just imagined what his
head space would be like.

1115
00:56:24,683 --> 00:56:26,634
It's very presumptuous
of me to say,

1116
00:56:26,717 --> 00:56:28,324
oh, I'm writing
this as Marshall,

1117
00:56:28,407 --> 00:56:30,324
even though it literally
says Marshall's point of view

1118
00:56:30,407 --> 00:56:31,683
when I write it.

1119
00:56:31,786 --> 00:56:33,372
But you know, it's
'cause it's fiction.

1120
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:35,786
It's OK.

1121
00:56:35,924 --> 00:56:38,151
Do you feel like you
have an understanding

1122
00:56:38,234 --> 00:56:40,703
of who Marshall actually is?

1123
00:56:40,786 --> 00:56:42,634
It's kind of hard
to tell with Eminem

1124
00:56:42,717 --> 00:56:43,924
because he's like...

1125
00:56:44,027 --> 00:56:46,979
as much as he puts
personal shit in his songs,

1126
00:56:47,062 --> 00:56:49,496
he probably shows us only
what he wants us to see.

1127
00:56:55,062 --> 00:56:56,289
What's up, ladies?

1128
00:56:58,993 --> 00:57:00,958
I was sharing a lot...

1129
00:57:01,062 --> 00:57:02,269
Aw.

1130
00:57:02,372 --> 00:57:04,441
And made it like a
fucking open book.

1131
00:57:04,545 --> 00:57:06,096
And then sometimes
you want to close

1132
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,303
that book back a
little bit because

1133
00:57:08,407 --> 00:57:10,510
did you share too much?

1134
00:57:10,648 --> 00:57:11,772
What's up? I'm Marshall,
and I'm gonna to punch you

1135
00:57:11,855 --> 00:57:13,131
in the fucking throat.

1136
00:57:13,234 --> 00:57:15,303
Do you have anything
left to keep to yourself?

1137
00:57:15,407 --> 00:57:16,738
I can't fucking work like this.

1138
00:57:16,821 --> 00:57:18,082
You're stressing me out.

1139
00:57:19,786 --> 00:57:21,476
"-" Before I was
famous, everything

1140
00:57:21,579 --> 00:57:23,648
"was moving in slow motion.

1141
00:57:23,786 --> 00:57:26,048
"Now it seems like
somebody has pressed

1142
00:57:26,131 --> 00:57:27,717
"the fucking fast
forward button,

1143
00:57:27,821 --> 00:57:29,958
"and my life just
seems to be rushing by.

1144
00:57:30,096 --> 00:57:33,027
It sometimes feels
like a strange movie."

1145
00:57:33,131 --> 00:57:34,683
I couldn't imagine
how jarring it is

1146
00:57:34,786 --> 00:57:39,738
to go from being where
he started out in 8 Mile

1147
00:57:39,821 --> 00:57:43,772
to the level of fame
and success and wealth

1148
00:57:43,855 --> 00:57:48,165
and confinement that comes
along with celebrity.

1149
00:57:48,269 --> 00:57:49,269
Unreal.

1150
00:57:49,372 --> 00:57:50,786
Hey, Em.

1151
00:57:50,924 --> 00:57:52,048
Don't... don't come
over here, man.

1152
00:57:52,131 --> 00:57:52,993
Hey, Em.

1153
00:57:53,131 --> 00:57:54,027
All right?

1154
00:57:54,131 --> 00:57:55,648
Hey, have a good concert.

1155
00:57:55,752 --> 00:57:58,303
The way that he talks
about fame in his music,

1156
00:57:58,407 --> 00:58:00,303
it's like he wishes
that he could just

1157
00:58:00,407 --> 00:58:03,821
go and be a normal person
and go to the store

1158
00:58:03,924 --> 00:58:05,289
and things like that.

1159
00:58:05,372 --> 00:58:06,841
And I think it feels
like an invasion.

1160
00:58:06,924 --> 00:58:08,338
Yo, what's up, Eminem?

1161
00:58:08,441 --> 00:58:09,510
So are you gonna...

1162
00:58:09,614 --> 00:58:10,855
Good to see you, man.

1163
00:58:10,958 --> 00:58:13,634
Every single day I'm on
the Eminem subreddit.

1164
00:58:13,717 --> 00:58:16,027
There is 800,000 Stans.

1165
00:58:16,131 --> 00:58:18,683
We have guys from
India and Pakistan,

1166
00:58:18,786 --> 00:58:22,027
and like, just all...
all over the world.

1167
00:58:22,165 --> 00:58:24,890
We theorize, and we go
back and forth, and we try

1168
00:58:24,993 --> 00:58:27,855
and, uh, figure out what
goes on in his daily life.

1169
00:58:27,993 --> 00:58:29,648
Would be really
cool to know, like,

1170
00:58:29,752 --> 00:58:32,117
does he go to the
gym in the morning?

1171
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,200
Or does he play basketball,

1172
00:58:34,338 --> 00:58:36,096
or is he in the studio all day?

1173
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,890
It feels incredibly
euphoric to me

1174
00:58:38,993 --> 00:58:42,151
because every post...
every post you go through

1175
00:58:42,234 --> 00:58:44,669
and every little thread
of information you get,

1176
00:58:44,752 --> 00:58:47,855
it gives you one step closer
to getting closer to the man.

1177
00:58:49,303 --> 00:58:50,165
Em!

1178
00:58:50,269 --> 00:58:51,496
Em!

1179
00:58:51,579 --> 00:58:53,117
You can look at
your smartphone now

1180
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,289
and look at social
media and feel like

1181
00:58:54,372 --> 00:58:56,717
you have a direct line
to these people now.

1182
00:58:56,855 --> 00:58:59,496
There's definitely
a very thin line

1183
00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:01,186
when you go from
that follow button,

1184
00:59:01,269 --> 00:59:03,358
and then all of a sudden,
you're following someone.

1185
00:59:03,441 --> 00:59:06,703
Conversely, I'm following them.

1186
00:59:06,786 --> 00:59:08,924
And it's like, I need
to know every new thing

1187
00:59:09,027 --> 00:59:12,062
about this person, and I
think that takes some people

1188
00:59:12,165 --> 00:59:14,579
down some dark roads.

1189
00:59:14,683 --> 00:59:17,269
I'm sure it feels like a prison,

1190
00:59:17,407 --> 00:59:20,924
where you can't go anywhere
without being recognized.

1191
00:59:36,096 --> 00:59:40,407
There's definitely a
shift of him becoming

1192
00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:42,614
a little bit more withdrawn

1193
00:59:42,752 --> 00:59:44,786
from all of the fame.

1194
01:00:21,131 --> 01:00:23,441
I live in that same area
where I do hear from people,

1195
01:00:23,545 --> 01:00:24,924
like, oh, my God,
Eminem moved here

1196
01:00:25,027 --> 01:00:26,013
and his address is this,

1197
01:00:26,096 --> 01:00:27,579
and oh, I was trick-or-treating,

1198
01:00:27,683 --> 01:00:29,096
and I went to his house.

1199
01:00:29,234 --> 01:00:33,648
And it's like he can't
even live normally.

1200
01:00:35,096 --> 01:00:37,875
I've always been like, oh,
I want to meet him so bad.

1201
01:00:37,958 --> 01:00:39,427
It's almost like a
double-edged sword,

1202
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:41,462
because what would I do,
run up to him and be like,

1203
01:00:41,545 --> 01:00:42,821
oh, my God, Eminem?

1204
01:00:42,924 --> 01:00:45,303
And that's, like,
not what he wants.

1205
01:00:45,407 --> 01:00:47,151
But at the same time,
it's, like, all I want.

1206
01:00:50,131 --> 01:00:51,924
I remember one
time me and Hailie

1207
01:00:52,027 --> 01:00:53,579
went to the mall in LA.

1208
01:00:53,683 --> 01:00:56,924
It was the last time I went
to the mall as me, right?

1209
01:00:57,027 --> 01:01:00,220
Like, not fucking disguised.

1210
01:01:00,303 --> 01:01:04,082
And, um, every store we
went in, we come out,

1211
01:01:04,165 --> 01:01:05,683
and there's another...
a bigger crowd

1212
01:01:05,821 --> 01:01:08,683
and a bigger crowd
and a bigger crowd.

1213
01:01:08,821 --> 01:01:11,082
And it got to the point
where I was like...

1214
01:01:11,165 --> 01:01:13,131
I picked her up, and
I'm like, come on,

1215
01:01:13,234 --> 01:01:14,855
kiddo, time to go, right?

1216
01:01:14,993 --> 01:01:18,303
And I'm walking, and
as I'm walking faster

1217
01:01:18,407 --> 01:01:19,738
and faster and faster,
they're walking

1218
01:01:19,821 --> 01:01:20,993
faster and faster and faster.

1219
01:01:21,131 --> 01:01:22,634
And I literally felt
like I was being chased

1220
01:01:22,717 --> 01:01:24,786
out the fucking mall.

1221
01:01:24,890 --> 01:01:29,772
And that was one
of those moments

1222
01:01:29,855 --> 01:01:34,027
where I realized, like, my
life really has changed.

1223
01:01:34,165 --> 01:01:37,993
Like, I can't... I can't
do this anymore, right?

1224
01:01:38,096 --> 01:01:40,407
'Cause I got to protect my baby.

1225
01:01:40,510 --> 01:01:43,683
So that was a scary...
that was a scary moment,

1226
01:01:43,821 --> 01:01:44,910
and scary for her too.

1227
01:01:44,993 --> 01:01:46,703
I asked her. She... she
doesn't remember it.

1228
01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:47,875
She was too little
to remember it.

1229
01:01:47,958 --> 01:01:51,510
But I remember it, and
it was fucking crazy.

1230
01:02:01,234 --> 01:02:04,372
But people do not
realize how dangerous...

1231
01:02:07,752 --> 01:02:11,703
Some people who are
attracted to Eminem

1232
01:02:11,786 --> 01:02:14,407
might not be the
best-intentioned people

1233
01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:18,027
and who could be
aggressive or violent.

1234
01:02:18,131 --> 01:02:20,683
We've seen it with other
artists, who a super-fan

1235
01:02:20,786 --> 01:02:22,717
has, you know, come after them.

1236
01:02:31,890 --> 01:02:33,890
I definitely feared
for his safety.

1237
01:02:33,993 --> 01:02:35,186
Sometimes you get obsessive fans

1238
01:02:35,269 --> 01:02:37,234
that are mentally unstable.

1239
01:02:40,924 --> 01:02:42,269
I'm protective of Eminem.

1240
01:02:42,372 --> 01:02:44,993
Oh, my God, if anything
happened to Em... oh, my God,

1241
01:02:45,096 --> 01:02:46,269
I'd come swinging.

1242
01:02:49,441 --> 01:02:52,958
You just never know, within
this profession that we have,

1243
01:02:53,096 --> 01:02:55,165
if there's somebody
out there lurking

1244
01:02:55,269 --> 01:02:58,013
that's creating this
fantasy in their own head

1245
01:02:58,096 --> 01:03:01,738
because you're not
responding to them.

1246
01:03:01,821 --> 01:03:04,683
That's the scariest shit ever.

1247
01:03:04,786 --> 01:03:06,427
Following and tracking him

1248
01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:08,131
like he's not a regular person,

1249
01:03:08,234 --> 01:03:09,338
you're not a fan at all.

1250
01:03:16,614 --> 01:03:18,683
11 years of policing,
I've seen all kinds

1251
01:03:18,821 --> 01:03:19,993
of dark, twisty shit.

1252
01:03:20,131 --> 01:03:21,910
When you get that famous,
you can't talk to everybody.

1253
01:03:21,993 --> 01:03:23,944
You can't say hi to everybody.
You can't meet everybody.

1254
01:03:24,027 --> 01:03:27,772
And so I don't think that
this kid Stan got that.

1255
01:03:27,855 --> 01:03:30,462
If the Stan character
existed today,

1256
01:03:30,545 --> 01:03:31,993
he would certainly follow Eminem

1257
01:03:32,096 --> 01:03:35,200
on every platform,
maybe run a fan page,

1258
01:03:35,303 --> 01:03:37,200
definitely on Eminem Reddit.

1259
01:03:37,338 --> 01:03:40,200
Would be writing to
him on each of his

1260
01:03:40,303 --> 01:03:44,165
social media accounts every day.

1261
01:03:44,269 --> 01:03:46,634
With the song "Stan,"
it's almost like

1262
01:03:46,717 --> 01:03:50,117
a PSA to his fans, like,
please don't do this.

1263
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,269
This is not what I want.

1264
01:04:00,958 --> 01:04:03,890
When I saw him in 2005's
Anger Management tour,

1265
01:04:03,993 --> 01:04:05,027
I was in college.

1266
01:04:05,131 --> 01:04:07,979
Came there to the
show with my friend.

1267
01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:14,890
This is when he was touring
nationwide with D12...

1268
01:04:14,993 --> 01:04:16,807
Yeah, man, we out here
having a good time

1269
01:04:16,890 --> 01:04:18,717
on this tour, so far, so good.

1270
01:04:18,821 --> 01:04:20,096
And with 50 Cent...

1271
01:04:20,234 --> 01:04:21,407
- 50...
- No, don't tell me.

1272
01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:22,462
I know I did good.

1273
01:04:24,062 --> 01:04:26,855
And with Lil Jon and
the East Side Boyz.

1274
01:04:26,958 --> 01:04:28,441
We out, bitch!

1275
01:04:28,545 --> 01:04:31,890
Which to this day has
been one of the best

1276
01:04:31,993 --> 01:04:34,096
tours that I've ever seen.

1277
01:04:34,234 --> 01:04:36,614
The atmosphere of
touring and the partying

1278
01:04:36,717 --> 01:04:39,027
and getting up in the morning
and catching the flights

1279
01:04:39,131 --> 01:04:40,875
and the plane and the jet lag

1280
01:04:40,958 --> 01:04:43,338
and riding the bus and
not being able to sleep,

1281
01:04:43,441 --> 01:04:44,441
it's hard.

1282
01:04:44,545 --> 01:04:46,669
It ends up running you down.

1283
01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,165
We're done in Detroit.

1284
01:04:48,269 --> 01:04:49,372
Europe next.

1285
01:04:49,476 --> 01:04:50,717
Wow.

1286
01:04:50,821 --> 01:04:53,531
It's almost like I have
to get off the road

1287
01:04:53,614 --> 01:04:57,372
every now and then and take
a break, or I'll go crazy.

1288
01:05:03,062 --> 01:05:05,738
I was supposed to be going
to see him in Manchester,

1289
01:05:05,821 --> 01:05:07,738
and he canceled
because he was...

1290
01:05:07,821 --> 01:05:10,958
well, exhaustion, he... he
told everyone at the time.

1291
01:05:11,062 --> 01:05:14,476
It was a bit of a shock.

1292
01:05:14,614 --> 01:05:16,165
I actually had tickets for him,

1293
01:05:16,269 --> 01:05:18,393
whenever the Anger Management
tour was that he canceled.

1294
01:05:18,476 --> 01:05:19,738
I had tickets to that show.

1295
01:05:19,821 --> 01:05:21,510
I remember at the
time being obviously

1296
01:05:21,648 --> 01:05:23,786
supremely disappointed,
but it wasn't a secret,

1297
01:05:23,890 --> 01:05:27,614
the struggles that
he was going through.

1298
01:05:27,752 --> 01:05:29,027
That's why I'm pill-adverse,

1299
01:05:29,131 --> 01:05:30,683
knowing how it got to him.

1300
01:05:30,786 --> 01:05:33,131
Even... I think I had,
like, my wisdom teeth out

1301
01:05:33,234 --> 01:05:35,993
and whatnot, and I wouldn't
even take the hydrocodones

1302
01:05:36,131 --> 01:05:38,255
because I'm like, I can't take
too many because this is...

1303
01:05:38,338 --> 01:05:39,993
this is the stuff
that'll get you.

1304
01:05:42,924 --> 01:05:44,545
I was on vacation
for a few days,

1305
01:05:44,648 --> 01:05:49,372
and I came back, and my
mom came to pick me...

1306
01:05:49,476 --> 01:05:51,476
pick me up at the airport.

1307
01:05:51,579 --> 01:05:54,393
And she looked at me like she
never looked at me like this

1308
01:05:54,476 --> 01:05:59,510
before, and she said,
"Zolt, someone from

1309
01:05:59,614 --> 01:06:01,841
Eminem friends passed away."

1310
01:06:01,924 --> 01:06:04,200
Rapper Deshaun Holton,
better known as Proof,

1311
01:06:04,338 --> 01:06:06,200
one of the founders
of the rap group D12

1312
01:06:06,338 --> 01:06:09,062
and a close friend of
sometime D12 member Eminem,

1313
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,462
was shot and killed at
a Detroit nightclub.

1314
01:06:11,545 --> 01:06:13,200
He was 32 years old.

1315
01:06:13,338 --> 01:06:14,875
Proof often shared
the stage with Eminem.

1316
01:06:14,958 --> 01:06:16,518
He was even the best
man at Em's wedding

1317
01:06:16,614 --> 01:06:19,234
this past January,
but he was also...

1318
01:06:19,372 --> 01:06:22,717
I want you to listen to
him, give him a chance.

1319
01:06:22,855 --> 01:06:26,683
Put your hands together
for the funky honky Eminem.

1320
01:06:31,096 --> 01:06:32,634
My name is Slim Shady.

1321
01:06:32,717 --> 01:06:34,752
Yo, this is MC Proof,
and this is my DJ...

1322
01:06:34,855 --> 01:06:35,821
I cry.

1323
01:06:35,924 --> 01:06:36,993
I immediately cry.

1324
01:06:37,096 --> 01:06:39,600
I said to my mom, "Sorry,
I can't go to the school.

1325
01:06:39,683 --> 01:06:41,324
It's too much for me, too much."

1326
01:06:41,407 --> 01:06:43,648
It took three months, and
even after three months,

1327
01:06:43,752 --> 01:06:46,324
when I came back to
the... to the school...

1328
01:06:46,407 --> 01:06:49,027
Man.

1329
01:06:49,131 --> 01:06:52,545
Even thinking about it really
want to make me cry about it.

1330
01:06:54,234 --> 01:06:55,979
When he lost Proof,
I cried with him

1331
01:06:56,062 --> 01:06:58,944
'cause I knew
exactly what he felt.

1332
01:06:59,027 --> 01:07:00,200
I lost my cousin,

1333
01:07:00,303 --> 01:07:03,441
and I lost him in
a bad, bad way.

1334
01:07:03,545 --> 01:07:05,407
The one person that
had my back since

1335
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:08,186
I was a kid, that
always was with me,

1336
01:07:08,269 --> 01:07:11,303
is not here to help me no more.

1337
01:07:11,441 --> 01:07:12,924
All I was doing was
just popping pills

1338
01:07:13,062 --> 01:07:14,579
and just laying in bed all day.

1339
01:07:14,683 --> 01:07:16,579
If he died, I should die.

1340
01:07:16,717 --> 01:07:18,648
That's how I felt.

1341
01:07:25,096 --> 01:07:27,372
I'm sorry. Give me a second.

1342
01:07:33,579 --> 01:07:37,131
You know, just, I've
lost a lot of people.

1343
01:07:37,234 --> 01:07:40,186
Um, I've lost my
sister. I lost my dad.

1344
01:07:40,269 --> 01:07:41,358
I lost my nephew.

1345
01:07:41,441 --> 01:07:43,531
So all, like, my close
family's, you know,

1346
01:07:43,614 --> 01:07:44,875
halfway gone.

1347
01:07:44,958 --> 01:07:46,958
Um, but my nephew
was, like, the worst,

1348
01:07:47,096 --> 01:07:49,393
'cause he was, like,
my best friend.

1349
01:07:49,476 --> 01:07:51,958
In 2016, like January, he like,

1350
01:07:52,062 --> 01:07:54,131
complained about
having a sore neck,

1351
01:07:54,269 --> 01:07:55,841
I think it was, and
doctors were like,

1352
01:07:55,924 --> 01:07:57,841
oh, sinus infection,
this, this, this.

1353
01:07:57,924 --> 01:07:59,117
My sister was
taking him every...

1354
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,462
like, all the time,
like... and he was someone

1355
01:08:00,545 --> 01:08:01,717
that never complained.

1356
01:08:01,821 --> 01:08:03,786
Um, he would never tell
you when he was sick,

1357
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:05,200
so that was already odd.

1358
01:08:05,338 --> 01:08:08,372
So finally some
doctor was like, yeah,

1359
01:08:08,510 --> 01:08:10,338
no, this is stage IV lymphoma.

1360
01:08:10,441 --> 01:08:11,565
You know, when my nephew passed,

1361
01:08:11,648 --> 01:08:15,082
I was like, fuck this,
and I tried to overdose,

1362
01:08:15,165 --> 01:08:17,393
um, after his funeral was over.

1363
01:08:21,096 --> 01:08:24,338
I woke up in the hospital
with my heart doctor

1364
01:08:24,441 --> 01:08:26,821
at the bottom of
my bed like a dad,

1365
01:08:26,958 --> 01:08:30,082
just telling me never
to do that shit again,

1366
01:08:30,165 --> 01:08:33,944
and I listen to Eminem
because him losing Proof,

1367
01:08:34,027 --> 01:08:36,462
I feel like I really
can resonate with that

1368
01:08:36,545 --> 01:08:39,579
because that was
literally my other half.

1369
01:08:41,821 --> 01:08:43,683
Why is it so rare
that the public

1370
01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:45,082
gets to see Eminem
nowadays? What's...

1371
01:08:45,165 --> 01:08:46,614
Yeah, why is it like that?

1372
01:08:50,062 --> 01:08:52,165
I actually need him
to make my music.

1373
01:08:52,269 --> 01:08:53,786
So he be busy.

1374
01:08:55,303 --> 01:08:59,510
And he had the white shirt
with big Proof on the shirt.

1375
01:09:13,786 --> 01:09:14,958
It was... I didn't...

1376
01:09:15,062 --> 01:09:19,407
I didn't want to see
Marshall like this, so...

1377
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:22,062
Guys, you gotta tell
me, what's the latest

1378
01:09:22,165 --> 01:09:23,545
with the new D12 album?

1379
01:09:23,648 --> 01:09:25,151
It's all in the memory of Proof,

1380
01:09:25,234 --> 01:09:27,074
- everything that he was.
- Shout out to Proof.

1381
01:09:27,165 --> 01:09:29,186
- You know what I mean?
- Yeah.

1382
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:31,372
Rest... rest in peace, big baby.

1383
01:09:31,476 --> 01:09:33,096
It was one of the
toughest times,

1384
01:09:33,234 --> 01:09:36,358
if not the toughest time in
his life, that we know of.

1385
01:09:36,441 --> 01:09:39,703
And it was kind of, I think,
a when it rains, it pours.

1386
01:09:39,786 --> 01:09:43,441
My dad, he passed unexpectedly
when I was entering

1387
01:09:43,545 --> 01:09:45,703
my freshman year of college.

1388
01:09:45,786 --> 01:09:51,358
You know, listening to him
talking about his grief

1389
01:09:51,441 --> 01:09:55,324
and the lows that
he went through...

1390
01:09:55,407 --> 01:09:57,786
I mean, I connect to that.

1391
01:10:34,372 --> 01:10:36,186
I was really
worried for Marshall

1392
01:10:36,269 --> 01:10:39,027
during those years,
for his well-being,

1393
01:10:39,131 --> 01:10:41,545
spiritually, physically.

1394
01:10:41,648 --> 01:10:45,062
Didn't know how it was
going to alter the future.

1395
01:10:45,165 --> 01:10:47,200
I'd got into this
vicious cycle of,

1396
01:10:47,303 --> 01:10:50,186
I'm depressed so
I need more pills.

1397
01:10:50,269 --> 01:10:52,324
And then your
tolerance gets so high

1398
01:10:52,407 --> 01:10:54,841
that you end up overdosing.

1399
01:10:54,924 --> 01:10:57,545
I woke up in the
hospital, and I didn't

1400
01:10:57,648 --> 01:10:58,958
know what the fuck happened.

1401
01:10:59,062 --> 01:11:00,821
Like, it... it seemed like I...

1402
01:11:00,924 --> 01:11:02,255
I fell asleep, and I woke up,

1403
01:11:02,338 --> 01:11:03,703
and I woke up with
tubes in me and shit.

1404
01:11:03,786 --> 01:11:04,958
I wanted to get up.

1405
01:11:05,062 --> 01:11:06,372
I couldn't move.

1406
01:11:08,752 --> 01:11:12,958
After the overdose,
I came home going,

1407
01:11:13,062 --> 01:11:18,131
yo, bro, I need something,
and I fucking went to town.

1408
01:11:18,269 --> 01:11:21,220
So I was really, like,
inside knowing, like,

1409
01:11:21,303 --> 01:11:22,821
I need to fucking...

1410
01:11:22,958 --> 01:11:26,096
I'm going to die if I don't...
if I don't do something.

1411
01:11:28,338 --> 01:11:31,476
I had this video
that they brought me

1412
01:11:31,579 --> 01:11:34,875
because I missed Hailie's
first guitar recital.

1413
01:11:34,958 --> 01:11:37,269
The amount of guilt that I felt,

1414
01:11:37,372 --> 01:11:40,303
I cried when I saw
it 'cause I was like,

1415
01:11:40,407 --> 01:11:43,220
oh, my God, I missed that.

1416
01:11:43,303 --> 01:11:46,427
And I kept saying to myself,

1417
01:11:46,510 --> 01:11:48,220
"Do you want to fucking
miss this again?

1418
01:11:48,303 --> 01:11:50,855
Do you want to miss everything?"

1419
01:11:53,890 --> 01:11:55,151
If you can't do it for yourself,

1420
01:11:55,234 --> 01:11:58,269
you fucking pussy, at
least do it for them.

1421
01:12:00,476 --> 01:12:04,648
I realized I'm never
doing this again.

1422
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,338
When I heard the news
that he, like, overdosed,

1423
01:12:10,441 --> 01:12:13,600
I was like, fuck. Like, damn.

1424
01:12:13,683 --> 01:12:15,855
Like, he could have actually...

1425
01:12:15,958 --> 01:12:18,324
he could have really died.

1426
01:12:18,407 --> 01:12:20,027
For me with celebrities,
it almost feels

1427
01:12:20,131 --> 01:12:21,496
like they are untouchable.

1428
01:12:21,579 --> 01:12:22,979
So whenever you hear
that a celebrity

1429
01:12:23,062 --> 01:12:24,372
died or almost died,

1430
01:12:24,476 --> 01:12:26,717
it's always like... it
hits you differently

1431
01:12:26,855 --> 01:12:30,338
from, like, uh, like
a normal person.

1432
01:12:30,441 --> 01:12:31,979
I was just in shock.

1433
01:12:32,062 --> 01:12:34,200
So I made a point,
I'm playing Eminem

1434
01:12:34,303 --> 01:12:35,545
every single day

1435
01:12:35,648 --> 01:12:37,289
until he gets out and
until he gets better,

1436
01:12:37,372 --> 01:12:39,407
until... until he
comes back to his rap.

1437
01:12:39,545 --> 01:12:41,634
And that's what I
did, every single song

1438
01:12:41,717 --> 01:12:44,772
over and over on replay.

1439
01:12:44,855 --> 01:12:46,338
While I was sitting in detox,

1440
01:12:46,441 --> 01:12:47,545
I didn't know exactly

1441
01:12:47,648 --> 01:12:50,496
what I was going to
do with my career.

1442
01:12:50,579 --> 01:12:51,979
At that time, I
was just thinking,

1443
01:12:52,062 --> 01:12:52,993
like, this can't be it.

1444
01:12:53,096 --> 01:12:54,186
Like, in the back of
my mind, of course,

1445
01:12:54,269 --> 01:12:55,496
I'm scared that it is.

1446
01:12:55,579 --> 01:12:57,890
No new music, no new
tours, no new interviews,

1447
01:12:58,027 --> 01:12:59,807
no new jokes,
whatever the case is.

1448
01:12:59,890 --> 01:13:01,531
It's just, he'd be gone.

1449
01:13:01,614 --> 01:13:05,924
To me, it was like,
Eminem, I know it's hard,

1450
01:13:06,027 --> 01:13:10,441
but one day you are coming back.

1451
01:13:10,545 --> 01:13:12,579
I had to relearn
how to walk, talk,

1452
01:13:12,683 --> 01:13:14,013
and, for the most part,

1453
01:13:14,096 --> 01:13:16,441
had to relearn how to rap again.

1454
01:13:16,545 --> 01:13:19,531
My writing had gotten terrible.

1455
01:13:19,614 --> 01:13:22,303
What did it feel like when
it started to work again?

1456
01:13:22,407 --> 01:13:24,993
Um, when I started
to get it back,

1457
01:13:25,096 --> 01:13:28,648
it was exciting
because I felt it.

1458
01:13:28,752 --> 01:13:32,048
It would be in conversations,
just having conversations

1459
01:13:32,131 --> 01:13:34,013
with people or the TV.

1460
01:13:34,096 --> 01:13:36,614
Like, every... every phrase
that someone said on TV,

1461
01:13:36,752 --> 01:13:39,476
oh, you said the word "the."

1462
01:13:39,579 --> 01:13:41,545
Duh, uh.

1463
01:13:41,648 --> 01:13:43,407
It was hitting me really fast,

1464
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:45,958
and I was writing
songs really quickly.

1465
01:13:46,096 --> 01:13:47,441
What... what's going on?

1466
01:13:48,855 --> 01:13:50,358
What are you guys doing?

1467
01:13:50,441 --> 01:13:52,634
Do you mind if I come out and
maybe join you or something?

1468
01:13:52,717 --> 01:13:54,186
You wanna come
out? Come on, baby.

1469
01:13:54,269 --> 01:13:56,614
- Eminem!
- Get over here.

1470
01:13:56,717 --> 01:13:58,614
When he first
announced "Relapse,"

1471
01:13:58,752 --> 01:14:00,269
it felt like Christmas to me.

1472
01:14:00,372 --> 01:14:02,890
Because when an album comes out,

1473
01:14:02,993 --> 01:14:06,117
I listen to an
album front to back,

1474
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,545
and then back to front,

1475
01:14:07,683 --> 01:14:12,131
and then to the end again,
for months at a time.

1476
01:14:12,234 --> 01:14:15,910
So listening to "Relapse"
was amazing to me,

1477
01:14:15,993 --> 01:14:17,303
just to hear that he's back.

1478
01:14:17,407 --> 01:14:20,338
I was just so, so ecstatic,
so proud, and so happy

1479
01:14:20,441 --> 01:14:21,561
that I could hear him again.

1480
01:14:21,648 --> 01:14:23,117
Number one, you look good.

1481
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,338
Number two, you're
number one right now,

1482
01:14:25,476 --> 01:14:26,600
as far as your
album's concerned,

1483
01:14:26,683 --> 01:14:27,875
and number three,
you're number one

1484
01:14:27,958 --> 01:14:29,200
in the UK as well.

1485
01:14:29,338 --> 01:14:30,648
So congratulations.

1486
01:14:30,752 --> 01:14:32,648
- How does it feel?
- Yeah, thank you.

1487
01:14:32,752 --> 01:14:33,910
It feels great.
I mean, I'm just,

1488
01:14:33,993 --> 01:14:35,338
you know, I'm glad to be back.

1489
01:14:36,648 --> 01:14:38,441
Guess who?

1490
01:14:38,545 --> 01:14:39,772
You miss me?

1491
01:14:39,855 --> 01:14:41,993
Jessica Simpson,
sing the chorus.

1492
01:14:52,303 --> 01:14:53,234
You know what I love
about your work,

1493
01:14:53,338 --> 01:14:54,462
and I'm sure many people do,

1494
01:14:54,545 --> 01:14:56,338
is there's a sense
of humor. It's funny.

1495
01:14:56,441 --> 01:14:58,855
Uh, you diss some people
in the new single.

1496
01:14:58,958 --> 01:15:00,462
- Some.
- Yeah.

1497
01:15:05,476 --> 01:15:08,890
As wickedly shrewd and
sharp as he is lyrically

1498
01:15:08,993 --> 01:15:11,013
with these scathing
disses of other people,

1499
01:15:11,096 --> 01:15:13,924
he was equally on his own case,

1500
01:15:14,027 --> 01:15:16,786
equally making fun of himself.

1501
01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:19,234
And all of that makes
you endearing to people.

1502
01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:24,531
His disses were always funny,

1503
01:15:24,614 --> 01:15:26,407
and he did something
with his voice.

1504
01:15:26,510 --> 01:15:27,565
Different character, right?

1505
01:15:27,648 --> 01:15:29,407
Flowing pretty
damn cool, though.

1506
01:15:29,545 --> 01:15:33,027
The whole, like, weird accent
thing that he did on it

1507
01:15:33,131 --> 01:15:34,324
kind of threw me off.

1508
01:15:34,407 --> 01:15:36,048
Then when I listened to it more,

1509
01:15:36,131 --> 01:15:39,096
I'm like, damn, I was missing
out on, like, some good shit.

1510
01:15:45,993 --> 01:15:49,441
The response that I got
from "Relapse" was lukewarm.

1511
01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:52,841
That hurt a little bit, but
it also turned the lights on.

1512
01:15:52,924 --> 01:15:55,924
Like, you got to do
something different.

1513
01:15:56,062 --> 01:15:58,717
Why don't you try
embracing sobriety?

1514
01:16:03,717 --> 01:16:08,993
I realized, like, I'm not
embarrassed anymore about it.

1515
01:16:09,096 --> 01:16:12,372
And I started treating
sobriety like a superpower,

1516
01:16:12,476 --> 01:16:16,131
and I took pride in the fact
that I was able to quit.

1517
01:16:18,407 --> 01:16:20,738
"Recovery" was a breath
of fresh air for him.

1518
01:16:20,821 --> 01:16:22,476
I think it really
sounded like someone

1519
01:16:22,614 --> 01:16:29,027
who was reclaiming his own
life and his own narrative.

1520
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,510
Getting sober and going
through what he went through

1521
01:16:33,614 --> 01:16:36,462
made him a totally
different person and artist.

1522
01:16:36,545 --> 01:16:39,082
He just used different
flows and different cadences

1523
01:16:39,165 --> 01:16:40,944
and ways of rapping on tunes.

1524
01:16:41,027 --> 01:16:44,683
So for me as a fan,
it was like becoming

1525
01:16:44,786 --> 01:16:47,338
a fan of a totally new artist.

1526
01:17:03,269 --> 01:17:05,269
I was there in the front.

1527
01:17:05,372 --> 01:17:07,013
Everybody here tonight
who is an Eminem fan,

1528
01:17:07,096 --> 01:17:09,013
man, I just want to say

1529
01:17:09,096 --> 01:17:11,979
thank you for the support, man,

1530
01:17:12,062 --> 01:17:14,890
and not giving up on me, man.

1531
01:17:14,993 --> 01:17:18,338
I love y'all and I couldn't
have did it without you,

1532
01:17:18,441 --> 01:17:21,013
so this song is for you.

1533
01:17:34,269 --> 01:17:36,269
To get to this one.

1534
01:17:36,372 --> 01:17:39,979
And some of you might
still be in that place,

1535
01:17:41,234 --> 01:17:42,752
Trying to get out.

1536
01:18:04,234 --> 01:18:08,096
That album helped rectify
a lot of things in my life.

1537
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,165
Talking about going
through losing his friend,

1538
01:18:10,303 --> 01:18:14,131
talking about the
sleeping pill addiction.

1539
01:18:14,234 --> 01:18:16,255
I'm just like Marshall.

1540
01:18:16,338 --> 01:18:18,958
There's times when,
in a 48-hour period,

1541
01:18:19,096 --> 01:18:22,393
I'd blow through 30 to 45
Ambien, like it was nothing.

1542
01:18:24,958 --> 01:18:26,993
Watching how he's gotten sober,

1543
01:18:27,096 --> 01:18:29,910
I didn't feel the need
to numb myself anymore.

1544
01:18:35,303 --> 01:18:38,683
I'm sitting down
at home one day,

1545
01:18:38,821 --> 01:18:42,393
and I'm just drinking,
and I pop the pill,

1546
01:18:42,476 --> 01:18:44,600
and "Not Afraid" came on.

1547
01:18:44,683 --> 01:18:47,786
I took it like he
was speaking to me.

1548
01:18:47,924 --> 01:18:49,476
And that moment, that day,

1549
01:18:49,614 --> 01:18:51,958
that night gave me
that push to say,

1550
01:18:52,096 --> 01:18:54,393
I'm done.

1551
01:18:54,476 --> 01:18:55,958
I have a wife now. I have a kid.

1552
01:18:56,062 --> 01:18:57,393
I have responsibilities.

1553
01:18:57,476 --> 01:18:59,427
I can't... I have to stop this.

1554
01:18:59,510 --> 01:19:01,855
So if I didn't act
on it in that moment,

1555
01:19:01,958 --> 01:19:04,683
I would have been screwed.

1556
01:19:04,786 --> 01:19:07,234
He was by my side, helping me

1557
01:19:07,338 --> 01:19:10,441
so I could be completely
clean and clear out my head

1558
01:19:10,579 --> 01:19:12,476
and start doing
something with my life.

1559
01:20:25,165 --> 01:20:27,303
When I was young, I
was really using music,

1560
01:20:27,407 --> 01:20:30,807
and often times Eminem's
music, to self-medicate

1561
01:20:30,890 --> 01:20:33,062
for my generalized
anxiety disorder.

1562
01:20:33,165 --> 01:20:35,358
Just kind of having
a hard time with life

1563
01:20:35,441 --> 01:20:36,944
and just processing
different emotions,

1564
01:20:37,027 --> 01:20:40,683
from being bullied at school
or wanting to date girls

1565
01:20:40,786 --> 01:20:42,269
and being rejected.

1566
01:20:42,407 --> 01:20:44,688
Like, you know, all the things
that come with adolescence.

1567
01:20:45,614 --> 01:20:47,648
As I got older, I
started at UNC and

1568
01:20:47,752 --> 01:20:50,096
led a team of researchers,
and we analyzed

1569
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,096
rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018.

1570
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:58,062
We saw mental health
references go from 8% to 44%.

1571
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Our findings were a reflection

1572
01:21:00,303 --> 01:21:01,786
of society changing,

1573
01:21:01,924 --> 01:21:04,269
and there were certain
artists early on,

1574
01:21:04,407 --> 01:21:05,958
Eminem among them,

1575
01:21:06,096 --> 01:21:09,648
who really kind of normalized it

1576
01:21:09,752 --> 01:21:12,082
and made it OK to talk about
these difficult feelings

1577
01:21:12,165 --> 01:21:13,338
and emotions.

1578
01:21:14,855 --> 01:21:16,993
There's so much strength
in vulnerability,

1579
01:21:17,096 --> 01:21:19,875
and that is such
a powerful thing.

1580
01:21:19,958 --> 01:21:24,338
That's one of the reasons
for Eminem's success.

1581
01:21:24,441 --> 01:21:26,131
When he's really vulnerable,

1582
01:21:26,234 --> 01:21:29,255
and he takes you there, when
he's talking about himself,

1583
01:21:29,338 --> 01:21:31,427
and the downsides of himself,

1584
01:21:31,510 --> 01:21:34,096
those are the things
that I gravitate to

1585
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,924
more so than anything.

1586
01:22:09,269 --> 01:22:10,924
Eminem was one of

1587
01:22:11,027 --> 01:22:13,979
the most important
people in this trend.

1588
01:22:14,062 --> 01:22:16,579
He made it more acceptable
for other artists

1589
01:22:16,717 --> 01:22:19,027
to really talk about
these complex emotions.

1590
01:23:12,993 --> 01:23:18,303
I really felt like those
lyrics were written for me.

1591
01:23:18,407 --> 01:23:20,476
It's extremely therapeutic,

1592
01:23:20,579 --> 01:23:23,958
and I don't take
that for granted.

1593
01:23:24,062 --> 01:23:26,890
He really has gone through
so much and struggled,

1594
01:23:26,993 --> 01:23:29,786
and I felt connected
to him in a way

1595
01:23:29,924 --> 01:23:34,096
that I ended up changing
my legal name to Marshall.

1596
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,269
It's kind of a reminder
to not feel like I have to

1597
01:23:36,372 --> 01:23:39,510
apologize for who I am.

1598
01:24:25,821 --> 01:24:28,255
I originally wrote
this letter to Eminem

1599
01:24:28,338 --> 01:24:30,303
three months ago,
but I never sent it.

1600
01:24:35,165 --> 01:24:38,338
"Dear Eminem, I'm
not sure you're going

1601
01:24:38,441 --> 01:24:40,027
"to get this or even read it.

1602
01:24:40,165 --> 01:24:42,082
"I'm just going to write down
how I feel about everything,

1603
01:24:42,165 --> 01:24:44,338
"because, honestly, you're
one of the only people that

1604
01:24:44,441 --> 01:24:46,648
"are helping me get through
this, even if I'm just

1605
01:24:46,786 --> 01:24:48,289
"a random 14-year-old girl

1606
01:24:48,372 --> 01:24:50,462
"probably having one
of those mood swings.

1607
01:24:50,545 --> 01:24:52,855
"Don't worry, I won't end
up like your song 'Stan, '

1608
01:24:52,958 --> 01:24:54,648
"even though it's
one of my favorites.

1609
01:24:54,752 --> 01:24:56,910
"But it will never
beat 'Mockingbird.'

1610
01:24:56,993 --> 01:24:59,027
"That fucking song
saved my life.

1611
01:24:59,131 --> 01:25:01,013
"My parents are constantly
fighting about stuff

1612
01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:02,545
"that don't even matter.

1613
01:25:02,648 --> 01:25:05,510
"And it gets annoying, because
when I say something about it,

1614
01:25:05,614 --> 01:25:07,013
"I get blamed for it.

1615
01:25:07,096 --> 01:25:10,924
"And the only one that
I feel cares about me

1616
01:25:11,062 --> 01:25:13,234
"is my brother,
because he was the one

1617
01:25:13,338 --> 01:25:15,683
"that had me listening to
you ever since I was born.

1618
01:25:15,786 --> 01:25:17,669
"He's in his 20s,
and I love him a lot,

1619
01:25:17,752 --> 01:25:20,890
and I wish my parents..."

1620
01:25:21,027 --> 01:25:22,441
"Loved me as much as he did.

1621
01:25:22,545 --> 01:25:24,717
"I thought about how much
you care about Hailie

1622
01:25:24,855 --> 01:25:26,151
"and just wish
they cared about me

1623
01:25:26,234 --> 01:25:27,703
"as much as you did with her.

1624
01:25:27,786 --> 01:25:29,944
"It's crazy that your songs
and even your silly interviews

1625
01:25:30,027 --> 01:25:32,013
"make me feel happier
than my family ever did.

1626
01:25:32,096 --> 01:25:33,924
"I know I'm just
another Eminem fan who

1627
01:25:34,027 --> 01:25:36,269
"has a sad backstory or
some other shit like that,

1628
01:25:36,407 --> 01:25:37,683
"but you're such a cool guy.

1629
01:25:37,786 --> 01:25:40,441
"I admire you, and
if my parents did,

1630
01:25:40,545 --> 01:25:42,462
"maybe they'd be an even
better parent like you are.

1631
01:25:42,545 --> 01:25:44,717
Hope you get this, Kripa."

1632
01:25:46,338 --> 01:25:48,324
Why do you think you
chose him as an outlet

1633
01:25:48,407 --> 01:25:50,614
for your tough feelings?

1634
01:25:50,717 --> 01:25:52,027
Um, sorry, wait.

1635
01:25:54,510 --> 01:25:57,614
Um, probably because, like,

1636
01:25:57,717 --> 01:26:00,786
he's had a really tough
childhood too, so I feel like,

1637
01:26:00,924 --> 01:26:02,821
um, he would relate
a little bit.

1638
01:26:02,924 --> 01:26:08,703
Taking my feelings out with,
like, writing something...

1639
01:26:08,786 --> 01:26:10,048
sorry.

1640
01:26:10,131 --> 01:26:16,441
Um, I feel like it, like,
makes me feel better.

1641
01:26:25,545 --> 01:26:28,303
I feel like it
makes me feel better

1642
01:26:28,407 --> 01:26:30,476
'cause there's also
other people out there

1643
01:26:30,579 --> 01:26:32,082
going through the same thing.

1644
01:26:32,165 --> 01:26:36,703
And so if they see
what I'm going through

1645
01:26:36,786 --> 01:26:38,648
and what, like,
Eminem went through,

1646
01:26:38,786 --> 01:26:40,565
maybe they'll know
that a lot of people

1647
01:26:40,648 --> 01:26:42,131
also go through the same things

1648
01:26:42,269 --> 01:26:45,958
that, like, other people do.

1649
01:26:47,821 --> 01:26:50,476
A big part of my
tattoos have been about

1650
01:26:50,579 --> 01:26:54,303
facing up to my mental health.

1651
01:26:54,441 --> 01:26:57,082
A lot of people really
didn't like my world record.

1652
01:26:57,165 --> 01:26:58,531
What a stupid record.

1653
01:26:58,614 --> 01:27:00,441
It's ridiculous.

1654
01:27:00,545 --> 01:27:04,890
It can hurt when... when
people say horrible things.

1655
01:27:05,027 --> 01:27:06,703
I've been told that I
need to be locked up,

1656
01:27:06,786 --> 01:27:08,683
I should be in a mental place.

1657
01:27:12,614 --> 01:27:14,600
Although I read the
negative things,

1658
01:27:14,683 --> 01:27:16,165
and it's hurtful,

1659
01:27:16,269 --> 01:27:19,151
it would never
change the fact that

1660
01:27:19,234 --> 01:27:22,151
I've continued to
get the tattoos.

1661
01:27:22,234 --> 01:27:25,117
Do you have a
favorite Eminem song?

1662
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,579
I usually say "Not Afraid."

1663
01:27:27,717 --> 01:27:30,372
There are a lot
of positives, too,

1664
01:27:30,476 --> 01:27:33,200
because my Instagram has
brought a lot of other fans

1665
01:27:33,303 --> 01:27:36,648
who really relate to
me in a lot of ways.

1666
01:27:36,752 --> 01:27:38,683
And I met my husband.

1667
01:27:42,579 --> 01:27:44,890
He's a really big
Eminem fan as well,

1668
01:27:44,993 --> 01:27:48,027
and he reached out to me.

1669
01:27:48,131 --> 01:27:50,772
It's really nice to
have somebody that

1670
01:27:50,855 --> 01:27:53,117
gets the whole Eminem thing.

1671
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,634
I get these impulsive
thoughts in my head.

1672
01:27:55,717 --> 01:27:58,855
I was like, we should
get married in Detroit.

1673
01:27:58,958 --> 01:28:00,841
We got married at
St. Andrew's Hall,

1674
01:28:00,924 --> 01:28:04,407
which is one of the first
places that Eminem performed.

1675
01:28:04,510 --> 01:28:08,752
And now we've got a son.

1676
01:28:08,890 --> 01:28:10,165
Without Eminem,

1677
01:28:10,269 --> 01:28:13,407
I wouldn't have the
life I have right now.

1678
01:28:24,717 --> 01:28:28,958
What do you think is meant
by "The Death of Slim Shady"?

1679
01:28:29,096 --> 01:28:30,062
Who knows how he means it?

1680
01:28:30,165 --> 01:28:31,096
He's a satirist.

1681
01:28:31,234 --> 01:28:32,476
He could be, like,

1682
01:28:32,614 --> 01:28:34,303
saying let's cancel Slim Shady.

1683
01:28:34,441 --> 01:28:38,186
Which is kind of funny
to even think about.

1684
01:28:38,269 --> 01:28:42,096
Slim Shady can't be canceled.

1685
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,476
"The Death of Slim Shady"
is a concept album,

1686
01:28:45,614 --> 01:28:47,186
so you gotta listen
from start to finish,

1687
01:28:47,269 --> 01:28:50,013
um, and it's about Slim
Shady, his character

1688
01:28:50,096 --> 01:28:54,358
that he started 25 years
ago, and how his character

1689
01:28:54,441 --> 01:28:55,875
would be in this age.

1690
01:29:15,890 --> 01:29:21,545
This album is about,
I'm not holding back.

1691
01:29:21,683 --> 01:29:24,082
I'm gonna do everything
I can to get canceled.

1692
01:29:29,234 --> 01:29:30,841
I'm not sure people
actually understand now

1693
01:29:30,924 --> 01:29:32,165
that Slim Shady is a character.

1694
01:29:32,269 --> 01:29:34,255
I feel like the new album
just offended more people,

1695
01:29:34,338 --> 01:29:36,958
but I think that that was
kind of the intention.

1696
01:29:37,062 --> 01:29:38,772
The world is in a
very different place

1697
01:29:38,855 --> 01:29:41,510
to where it was in 1999.

1698
01:29:41,648 --> 01:29:43,338
Gen Z wants to cancel him.

1699
01:29:43,441 --> 01:29:44,910
Nobody can cancel Eminem.

1700
01:29:44,993 --> 01:29:46,131
Jesus Christ himself

1701
01:29:46,234 --> 01:29:48,648
will have to come down
and cancel Eminem,

1702
01:29:48,752 --> 01:29:50,131
and he ain't coming down either.

1703
01:29:50,234 --> 01:29:54,372
As his fan base, we all
grew into this whole family,

1704
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:56,117
and we're going to
protect this man

1705
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,082
by any means necessary.

1706
01:29:58,165 --> 01:30:00,165
Going online and seeing people

1707
01:30:00,269 --> 01:30:01,993
trying to cancel Eminem,

1708
01:30:02,131 --> 01:30:03,476
that is soft,

1709
01:30:03,579 --> 01:30:05,993
and fuck you if
you don't like it.

1710
01:30:06,096 --> 01:30:08,427
Throw up a middle finger
and let it linger.

1711
01:30:08,510 --> 01:30:11,131
I don't give a fuck, mostly.

1712
01:30:11,234 --> 01:30:12,393
Calm down, Slim.

1713
01:30:12,476 --> 01:30:14,234
We both made Eminem.

1714
01:30:14,338 --> 01:30:16,131
He's the best of both of us.

1715
01:30:16,234 --> 01:30:18,407
And, really, it's
not about me or you.

1716
01:30:18,510 --> 01:30:21,131
It's about him and the fans.

1717
01:30:21,234 --> 01:30:23,062
Damn.

1718
01:30:23,165 --> 01:30:25,510
I don't even want
to fucking admit it,

1719
01:30:25,614 --> 01:30:27,979
but your bitch ass is right.

1720
01:30:28,062 --> 01:30:29,441
I'm embarrassed.

1721
01:30:29,545 --> 01:30:31,545
When I'm in Paris,
I'm embarrassed

1722
01:30:31,648 --> 01:30:33,614
of my parents' parrot.

1723
01:30:42,407 --> 01:30:44,944
I'm sure 200%, 1,000%.

1724
01:30:46,855 --> 01:30:49,372
Everyone, no matter
how old or young,

1725
01:30:49,476 --> 01:30:50,979
will appreciate Eminem's music.

1726
01:30:59,441 --> 01:31:01,703
People who have
not been born yet

1727
01:31:01,786 --> 01:31:04,303
will follow his music,

1728
01:31:04,407 --> 01:31:05,717
reopen "The Slim Shady LP,"

1729
01:31:05,821 --> 01:31:07,234
and love him from
start to finish.

1730
01:31:09,407 --> 01:31:10,648
I'll be looking down proud,

1731
01:31:10,752 --> 01:31:13,220
like, yeah, damn
straight, y'all.

1732
01:31:13,303 --> 01:31:14,752
You get that white tee on.

1733
01:31:14,855 --> 01:31:16,476
You get those baggy blue jeans.

1734
01:31:16,579 --> 01:31:18,096
For sure. Rock it.

1735
01:31:18,234 --> 01:31:21,407
A hundred years from now,
in the catalogs of catalogs,

1736
01:31:21,510 --> 01:31:24,338
you'll be able to go back
and listen to "Lose Yourself"

1737
01:31:24,441 --> 01:31:28,614
or "The Way I Am," and you'll
know Eminem was that guy.

1738
01:31:28,752 --> 01:31:30,407
All great artists
have the ability

1739
01:31:30,510 --> 01:31:32,096
to reinvent themselves.

1740
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,476
And yet, I feel like every
time a lot of artists

1741
01:31:34,579 --> 01:31:37,048
do that, they always sacrifice
a little bit of something,

1742
01:31:37,131 --> 01:31:40,220
and Marshall's never
sacrificed anything.

1743
01:31:40,303 --> 01:31:44,393
He's, like, remained true
to the first day I met him.

1744
01:31:44,476 --> 01:31:46,407
I'm just happy I
went after my dreams

1745
01:31:46,510 --> 01:31:49,062
'cause it inspired another
kid to go after his dreams,

1746
01:31:49,165 --> 01:31:50,269
you know?

1747
01:31:50,407 --> 01:31:53,269
The fact that he had
enough personal empathy

1748
01:31:53,407 --> 01:31:57,476
to write something where

1749
01:31:57,614 --> 01:32:01,200
the fans' feelings
are being considered

1750
01:32:01,303 --> 01:32:03,476
tells you who he
is, and for that,

1751
01:32:03,579 --> 01:32:05,510
I love and respect him.

1752
01:32:05,648 --> 01:32:07,807
It's a crazy thing
when all of a sudden

1753
01:32:07,890 --> 01:32:11,117
you go from being someone
no one cares about

1754
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,062
to someone that a lot
of people care about.

1755
01:32:14,165 --> 01:32:17,855
What he's done with his
life is extraordinary.

1756
01:32:17,958 --> 01:32:22,303
He has grown to be a
fantastic human being

1757
01:32:22,407 --> 01:32:26,545
that is really fucking
dope at his craft.

1758
01:32:26,683 --> 01:32:30,476
He's an amazing father,
and I can't wait to see

1759
01:32:30,579 --> 01:32:32,958
what he's going to
turn out to be next.

1760
01:32:36,855 --> 01:32:40,303
Coming here, were you
expecting to see Eminem?

1761
01:32:40,407 --> 01:32:42,717
Maybe.

1762
01:32:42,821 --> 01:32:45,200
I don't... that
would be really cool.

1763
01:32:45,303 --> 01:32:47,944
Half yes, half no.

1764
01:32:48,027 --> 01:32:49,648
Yes and no.

1765
01:32:49,786 --> 01:32:50,910
I didn't really expect it,

1766
01:32:50,993 --> 01:32:52,289
but I had thoughts
about it, you know?

1767
01:32:52,372 --> 01:32:56,476
I was hoping that Eminem
was going to be here.

1768
01:32:56,614 --> 01:32:57,855
He's a busy man.

1769
01:32:57,993 --> 01:32:59,220
He's got a song that
he just dropped.

1770
01:32:59,303 --> 01:33:00,943
He's got an album that
he's dropping soon.

1771
01:33:01,027 --> 01:33:02,496
I just wouldn't think
he had the time.

1772
01:33:02,579 --> 01:33:04,013
Oh, my God, what
would I even do?

1773
01:33:04,096 --> 01:33:05,013
What would I even say?

1774
01:33:05,096 --> 01:33:07,496
I would probably just throw up.

1775
01:33:07,579 --> 01:33:09,151
I don't know.

1776
01:33:09,234 --> 01:33:11,669
If I ever met Eminem,
I would probably die.

1777
01:33:11,752 --> 01:33:13,372
I don't even know, man.

1778
01:33:13,476 --> 01:33:14,993
I'd be speechless.

1779
01:33:16,993 --> 01:33:18,269
2013.

1780
01:33:18,407 --> 01:33:20,752
He was in Paris
for his new album.

1781
01:33:25,993 --> 01:33:28,358
And the car, they're going.

1782
01:33:28,441 --> 01:33:32,096
And I was like, no,
I'm not going to...

1783
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:36,669
to see Marshall, and
15 seconds later,

1784
01:33:36,752 --> 01:33:38,717
the car stopped.

1785
01:33:42,027 --> 01:33:45,062
"Marshall want to see you."

1786
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,269
And every fan who was there

1787
01:33:49,407 --> 01:33:52,013
turned their head on me.

1788
01:33:52,096 --> 01:33:54,614
He knew my name, so I was like,

1789
01:33:54,717 --> 01:33:57,510
holy shit, he knew my name.

1790
01:34:14,890 --> 01:34:16,958
The bodyguard was like,

1791
01:34:17,096 --> 01:34:20,545
OK, OK, OK, Zolt,
you go in the car.

1792
01:34:45,303 --> 01:34:46,786
Man, thank you.

1793
01:34:46,890 --> 01:34:48,993
Thank you for your
music, for everything.

1794
01:34:59,786 --> 01:35:02,117
When you're an
artist like Marshall,

1795
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:03,372
you don't have time.

1796
01:35:03,476 --> 01:35:05,958
You do not have
time for anything.

1797
01:35:15,717 --> 01:35:17,924
I think he probably was shocked

1798
01:35:18,027 --> 01:35:21,841
because nobody will
tell him you have to go.

1799
01:35:21,924 --> 01:35:26,579
But, you know, I'm the
guy who respect his time.

1800
01:36:12,648 --> 01:36:17,669
I think that people
imagine Stans as being,

1801
01:36:17,752 --> 01:36:19,476
you know, violent and deranged.

1802
01:36:19,614 --> 01:36:23,614
But in reality, being
a Stan and being a fan

1803
01:36:23,717 --> 01:36:27,545
can actually be a positive
and beautiful thing.

1804
01:36:29,648 --> 01:36:32,096
I've lost a lot of
people in my life,

1805
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,096
but the one thing that has
really gotten me through

1806
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,669
all those losses
has been Eminem.

1807
01:36:37,752 --> 01:36:39,614
Eminem has always
been a constant

1808
01:36:39,717 --> 01:36:42,407
throughout my entire
life, and for a long time,

1809
01:36:42,510 --> 01:36:44,013
I really felt unlucky

1810
01:36:44,096 --> 01:36:46,165
because I wasn't
able to meet him.

1811
01:36:46,269 --> 01:36:47,875
It's like the
carrot's right there,

1812
01:36:47,958 --> 01:36:50,786
but it's like I can't
figure out how to get to it.

1813
01:36:50,890 --> 01:36:52,924
Now my mindset has changed,
because I feel like

1814
01:36:53,027 --> 01:36:55,924
this documentary is
a lot more personal

1815
01:36:56,027 --> 01:37:00,821
than it would be just me
to Em saying, hi, huge fan,

1816
01:37:00,958 --> 01:37:02,372
take a picture.

1817
01:37:02,510 --> 01:37:05,200
Now he kind of can understand
exactly how I've become a...

1818
01:37:05,303 --> 01:37:07,372
like, how I've been
a fan for so long

1819
01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:10,993
and, like, similar
kind of struggles,

1820
01:37:11,131 --> 01:37:12,634
I guess, we've been through,

1821
01:37:12,717 --> 01:37:16,200
and just how his music has
truly influenced my life

1822
01:37:16,303 --> 01:37:21,165
and helped me through really,
you know, traumatic times.

1823
01:37:21,303 --> 01:37:24,821
But a true die-hard fan
really does, I think,

1824
01:37:24,924 --> 01:37:30,910
understand me and
every aspect of me

1825
01:37:30,993 --> 01:37:35,062
and understands that I
am just a regular person.

1826
01:37:35,165 --> 01:37:38,131
I'm just a fucking human being.

1827
01:37:40,131 --> 01:37:42,648
The reason they connect
with me is because

1828
01:37:42,752 --> 01:37:45,234
they see some of
themselves in me.

1829
01:37:48,683 --> 01:37:50,807
Maybe they were
bullied as a kid.

1830
01:37:50,890 --> 01:37:54,165
Maybe the world fucking
dealt them a raw deal.

1831
01:37:56,303 --> 01:37:59,545
But for every young
person that gets older

1832
01:37:59,683 --> 01:38:03,752
and wants to pay
the world back...

1833
01:38:03,855 --> 01:38:07,634
that's the person that
connects with me the most,

1834
01:38:07,717 --> 01:38:09,579
because they understand me,

1835
01:38:09,717 --> 01:38:11,579
and I feel like I
understand them,

1836
01:38:11,717 --> 01:38:15,496
and I get them because
they're really me.

1837
01:38:15,579 --> 01:38:18,924
The fans that have grown
with me from day one

1838
01:38:19,062 --> 01:38:21,979
till now, it's,
like, unbelievable

1839
01:38:22,062 --> 01:38:23,496
that they're still with me,

1840
01:38:23,579 --> 01:38:25,234
and I'm very blessed to this day

1841
01:38:25,372 --> 01:38:28,855
to still have people that
ride for me like that.

1842
01:38:28,958 --> 01:38:30,855
To my fans, thank you.

1843
01:38:30,958 --> 01:38:32,890
I love y'all, and I am...

1844
01:38:32,993 --> 01:38:35,683
I would not be here,
if it was not for you.

1845
01:38:35,786 --> 01:38:39,890
So I owe you my life,

1846
01:38:39,993 --> 01:38:43,510
and that's who I do
my music for is them,

1847
01:38:43,614 --> 01:38:45,462
and fuck everybody else.

1848
01:38:45,545 --> 01:38:49,234
Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em.

1849
01:38:49,372 --> 01:38:51,476
Eat a dick.

1850
01:38:51,579 --> 01:38:55,407
You don't like it,
eat a fat dick.

1851
01:38:58,234 --> 01:39:00,013
Hey, Em, it's Paul again.

1852
01:39:00,096 --> 01:39:04,579
I watched the movie, and we
got to talk about the ending.

1853
01:39:04,683 --> 01:39:07,427
Give me a call back.

1854
01:39:11,717 --> 01:39:12,979
All right, I only
got one minute,

1855
01:39:13,062 --> 01:39:18,338
and I'm at work, and I'm
at, like, 4% on my battery.

1856
01:39:18,441 --> 01:39:19,910
OK, Gracie, one
minute to do this,

1857
01:39:19,993 --> 01:39:21,545
so my daughter's gonna help me.

1858
01:39:21,648 --> 01:39:24,372
Please excuse me. I just got up.

1859
01:39:24,476 --> 01:39:26,255
Um...

1860
01:39:26,338 --> 01:39:28,958
Marshall Mathers is...

1861
01:39:29,062 --> 01:39:31,131
I can't believe I
have this opportunity

1862
01:39:31,234 --> 01:39:34,165
even to make this video,
and you might see this, dog.

1863
01:39:34,303 --> 01:39:37,048
Just know I wouldn't
be me without you.

1864
01:39:37,131 --> 01:39:40,738
I'm your biggest fan,
Marshall Mathers/Eminem.

1865
01:39:40,821 --> 01:39:43,165
Detroit, baby, Detroit.

1866
01:39:43,303 --> 01:39:46,614
I'm Lisa Mathers, and this
is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II,

1867
01:39:46,752 --> 01:39:47,910
but we call him Shady for short.

1868
01:39:47,993 --> 01:39:50,786
Just want you to know
that I'm Em's biggest fan

1869
01:39:50,890 --> 01:39:53,738
because I'm pretty much
the female version of him.

1870
01:39:53,821 --> 01:39:56,131
Was just married August
26th of last year

1871
01:39:56,234 --> 01:39:57,303
and walked down the aisle

1872
01:39:57,407 --> 01:39:59,220
to the instrumental
to "Lose Yourself."

1873
01:39:59,303 --> 01:40:00,510
Bum, bum, bum, bum.

1874
01:40:00,614 --> 01:40:02,013
All my friends and
family were like,

1875
01:40:02,096 --> 01:40:03,303
whoa, let's get it.

1876
01:40:03,407 --> 01:40:06,165
I am Stan. Stan I am.

1877
01:40:06,303 --> 01:40:08,510
It's kind of like
Dr. Seuss, but no.

1878
01:40:08,614 --> 01:40:10,510
I have two Eminem tattoos.

1879
01:40:10,614 --> 01:40:14,614
One on my chest. One
on the other chest.

1880
01:40:14,752 --> 01:40:16,958
And a D12 tattoo.

1881
01:40:17,062 --> 01:40:21,441
I listen to Eminem music
every fucking single day.

1882
01:40:21,579 --> 01:40:24,131
I live Eminem, you can say.

1883
01:40:24,269 --> 01:40:28,234
Mr. Mathers, I love you.

1884
01:40:28,338 --> 01:40:30,200
From Japan.

1885
01:40:30,303 --> 01:40:32,600
This is a piece of the
tree of the old house

1886
01:40:32,683 --> 01:40:35,393
and a flower from the
new house right here.

1887
01:40:35,476 --> 01:40:37,910
Doesn't feel too great,
but, at the same time,

1888
01:40:37,993 --> 01:40:38,958
it kind of does.

1889
01:40:39,062 --> 01:40:40,427
Hello, Eminem.

1890
01:40:40,510 --> 01:40:44,600
I'm a fan, and I listen to
your music all the time.

1891
01:40:44,683 --> 01:40:47,269
Have a wonderful day and
take care of your family.

1892
01:40:47,372 --> 01:40:48,683
Bye.